Here Doggie

[Biff]

and its not too messed up for a fellas pad now is it

No - to be honest I had noticed. For a single guy your pad is remarkably tidy. Do you want to tell us something?

[dangerous]

Do you want to tell us something?

'what' adam's apple :spudwhat:

[thehollowmen]

Gross over exaggeration here me thinks. The majority of dog owners and society as a whole are bylaw abiding types and are not fuckwits, and as for most of society being untrustworthy – well done, you’ve just offended the majority of the country. Not even I can manage that kind of footinmouthness.

You've just had a bad experience with what could be termed as prize winning plonkers. Now put that tar brush back in its pot and take a more balanced view on life.

Yes, I shouldn't post when I'm having a bad day... cause re-reading it a lot of it came out wrong.

I was attacked by two farmdogs after a car accident while trying to get help (4 years ago) and I keep having bad run-ins with dogs and their owners.

I also admit this, and other incidents has left me quite bigoted when it comes to dog laws... there are areas where dogs are encouraged to go, and other places where dogs are prohibited. People need to keep to those rules.

What I mean to say is: "Unless you know that person over there and would trust them with your life, you can't trust them."

Many dogs are lovely, but on the street you don't know if the dog is tame and well behaved, or if it will be a loose cannon.

I respect that you know your dog is well behaved, well groomed and trained from a puppy and wouldn't hurt a fly, but when I'm out in the park or the street and a dog comes bounding up towards me I don't know that.

Does that make more sense?

And yes, my wife and I are planning to get a puppy (two years away, date set) which we'll raise and I'll be able to trust. I've lived with a couple of dogs too which I can trust, but I can't trust the dogs owned by another member of the public anymore.

[dangerous]

1) there are areas where dogs are encouraged to go, and other places where dogs are prohibited. People need to keep to those rules.

2) What I mean to say is: "Unless you know that person over there and would trust them with your life, you can't trust them."

3) Many dogs are lovely, but on the street you don't know if the dog is tame and well behaved, or if it will be a loose cannon.

4) Does that make more sense?

1) Yes you have a point, but its just not that easy there is no 'dog area' near me so I would go to the local park.. I would walk the dog down there on a leash..... but once down ther the dog could run free, however My dogs would come when whistled which I would do should they get to close to people that look like they are not too pleased about dogs, or kids.

2) What you need to do is have a better understanding of the dog, I sus the mut out before it gets to me, its behavior, its looks, and the owners condition take note to see if the heckles are up, waving its tail all this stuff will make you feel easier as the dog passes.

If the dog comes up to you dont panic, close fist and let in snif your fist dont move fast, dont show your teath, talk calmley etc.

3) In my eyes ther is only one "loose cannon" as you put it thats the Bull Terrier, however I dont trust German Sheperds either.

4) Yes what you say makes sence....... just learn about the breads and things wil be more easy when confrounted by a dog. When you get a pup things will compleatly change for you.

The red Dobi I had seemed to frighten a lot of people (not as many as a black Dobi as they look less meanising) but this was a lack of dog knowledge on there behalf A Dobi is a very trusting dog its just that people think they are meant to be mean thanks to 'Magnium PI' etc.

[Sniper]

No - to be honest I had noticed. For a single guy your pad is remarkably tidy. Do you want to tell us something?

What, my place is quite tidy and nice, and I clean it myself. I would like a puppy though to keep me company. A nice black Lab puppy. Yay

[Stevo]

I have problems with dogs... unless I know and trust the owner I'm afraid of them.

I shoot (archery) at a park here. Local bylaws say no dog is allowed off a leash in the park, and no dog is allowed on a marked sports ground.

So, a few months ago I was shooting in a marked sports ground (big signs saying "DANGER" everywhere, and an archery club set up there perminantly) in the middle of a park, and a dog comes running onto the range. This isn't too uncommon, I can let it slide because of how often it does occur, and they aren't really high enough to get in the danger path of arrows.

Be aware I'm at full draw, release aid ready to fire and have no control as to when it WILL go off.

But one of the owners, leash in hand, runs out (from my blind side) and screams "Bad dog! Don't go over there." I shift my aim a bit over because he is high enough to be hit by an arrow, and aim a good 30 degrees to the side where there is a huge patch of grass... good landing spot for an arrow... when this guys wife (s/o?) runs across my old line of fire, into my NEW line of fire about 10 meters off and yells "Don't shoot, you can't shoot here in a public park" and I tried pulling the bow to the side.

There was a sudden almighty click-TUMP-WHOOOSH-SWISH (in that order) and I was sure my heart stopped.

I was sure the boys in blue would have to be called, and since this was going about head height I was sure this lady was gonna be dead.

well... in the 3 days (or so it seemed) until time started to move again, I realised I hadn't quite been aiming straight for her, but there was a neat triangle hole in the edge of her straw hat.

.. These two were irate that I was shooting on a marked sports ground for a marked shooting club, yet they were in violation of two bylaws themselves.


If I can't trust joe-average dog owner to look after themselves and keep themselves alive and properly trained to society's expectations, how can I expect them to keep their dog trained and (edit: Their dog AND other people) safe?

What happens if you'd been driving your bike down the road and hit the dog? I doubt the owners would have paid for the repairs / hospital bill / funeral. Did you go through the paperwork of notifying a police officer within 48 hours?

Lesson learned #1: Most of society seem to be fuckwits and you can't trust them.

Lesson learned #2: Aformentioned fuckwits can't teach animals to be behaved either.


In my opinion, people who do something this stupid, and cause this much trouble at a risk to life should be put down.


To one of the nice k/b boys in blue who read this... can someone be taken to court for intending to cause an accident? (actually IMHO here they did cause the accident)

As a rifle shooter I am concerned that you guys can participate in your sport without so little as a fenced off area????? Bow and arrows (like rifles) were designed as killing weapons, and as sportsmen and women until you treat is as such (even if a sports competitor) I have issues with it.
I shoot both in 308 and 22 rifle events and our range restrictions are all the time getting stricter. In the history of NZ rifle sports noone has ever been killed or even hurt. (more than can be said for rugby or netball). Seems to me like you archers are an accident waiting to happen. Esp as like us your your blindspot is HUGE as your focus is so narrowed on your target!!!

[Stevo]

What, my place is quite tidy and nice, and I clean it myself. I would like a puppy though to keep me company. A nice black Lab puppy. Yay

Wait till ya meet my Boxer mate. I'll convert you!

[Sniper]

No thanks

[Deano]

Here's my boy. Love him to bits.

[Sniper]

They way you ride, what does your dog think Stevo?? Hehe

[thehollowmen]

As a rifle shooter I am concerned that you guys can participate in your sport without so little as a fenced off area????? Bow and arrows (like rifles) were designed as killing weapons, and as sportsmen and women until you treat is as such (even if a sports competitor) I have issues with it.
I shoot both in 308 and 22 rifle events and our range restrictions are all the time getting stricter. In the history of NZ rifle sports noone has ever been killed or even hurt. (more than can be said for rugby or netball). Seems to me like you archers are an accident waiting to happen. Esp as like us your your blindspot is HUGE as your focus is so narrowed on your target!!!

I agree, but the DCC won't give the club resorce consent to put up a perminant fence.

on this occasion there were warning signs and a rope barrier put up but people cross it thinking... I don't know what the hell they could be thinking.

Major level tourniments have barriers...

You are right. There will be a fatality soon on an archery range. With the amount of people and dogs that wander across I am really cutting down on my shooting hours as I can't afford to hit a dog or an idiot. ($3K for the dog I think and 25 years for the idiot)