Racing safety issues

[Shaun]

I have edited this to add why I asked about it in the first place.

Apart from it being the Kiwi way ie, give it a go, it is also the responsibilty of people to try to eliminat the hazards in any sport/job/work.

So I was looking to see what joe punter of this site thought about it?

I am definately NOT trying to point a finger nor knock any one for all there efforts, be it riders or commitee organisers.

How many riders were entered at the Wanganui Street races, that had not even raced in the last 12 months before boxing day?

It is not safe for them, nor for any of the other riders on the track, practise makes perfect, Not road races!

The Isle on man TT races, demand that 6 races are done in a 12 month period before there entries are accepted, do we have any such safety rules in NZ that I am not aware of?

Not stiring, just thinking about safety for one and all, I am sure that 2 or 3 of the riders that crashed, had NOT raced for many moons?

[jrandom]

I thought that one had to have at least three stamps from completed race meets within the last year (six months?) in one's licence book before entering Wangas or Pie Rower?

[Shaun]

I thought that one had to have at least three stamps from completed race meets within the last year (six months?) in one's licence book before entering Wangas or Pie Rower?

I think that rule is

3 stamps before a rider can enter a street race full stop, Not per each year, just first time at a street race

No disrespect to a very very good top old rider Bubbles Grey, but he had not even raced for 6 years, and he was out there

[jrandom]

I think that rule is

3 stamps before a rider can enter a street race full stop, Not per each year, just first time at a street race

Ah, right. Hmmm.

Might not be a bad idea to make the rule 'within the last year' then eh?

[Marknz]

Yea, I too thought you had to have some stamps in your log book to be able to enter a street race. That said, I don't think I've actually seen it written down anywhere. Someone in the know will follow up on this for us.

Shaun... only saw you out there once on Boxing Day (and a good effort it was too). Was there something wrong with the bike that you were not out there again? Where was the MDF what-ever-it-was that you were going to be racing? Were you just getting a licence stamp to be able to race IOM TT in '09?

[Shaun]

Yea, I too thought you had to have some stamps in your log book to be able to enter a street race. That said, I don't think I've actually seen it written down anywhere. Someone in the know will follow up on this for us.

Shaun... only saw you out there once on Boxing Day (and a good effort it was too). Was there something wrong with the bike that you were not out there again? Where was the MDF what-ever-it-was that you were going to be racing? Were you just getting a licence stamp to be able to race IOM TT in '09?

Simple mate, I do not have the cash flow to doevery single race these days as I am an old smashed up has been that cannot find the cash suppoet required to race full on, and since I have not been working really for the last 18 months due to off, I have no spare cash to fill my boots with, as well as

I stopped doing any training about 4 months ago, as my head was not 100% perfect as yet, so I am very unfit and very weak still, I normally weigh 63 KG, but are still only 55 at the moment, and as I am so unfit, I decided it was safer for me and the other riders to only do what I need to do for theTT

[puddytat]

3 stamps in your log book & your away... & those have to be on a closed track i.e under race control.

[MyGSXF:Me]

Are you coming to the Nsn races 2nd Jan, Shaun?

[Quasievil]

Three stamps and youre in, but you make a good point Shaun, for me I did a bunch of racing and trackdays to make sure I and the bike was up to the game vmcc.
I think also that their needs to be a better qualification process to enable a rider to compete at Wangas, ie 3 races in the last 6 months, or even perhaps the rider should enter the entire series, it seemed to me that many where at Wangas but didnt seem to give a toss about the series they had entered ie the Tri Series, it was 3 events not just one at Wangas being held.
Possible a few Glory boys choose Wangas only for the bragging rights ?

[vtec]

Shit, you're down to 55kg? I'm pretty damn slim, and I lost 4kg in 3 weeks of bicycle couriering leading up to xmas, and I dropped to 68kg, and I felt noticeably weaker, but a whole lot fitter. I hope you can put some of that weight back on man, you'll need it for the isle of mann.

People race the street circuits more, because they get attention, and with attention sometimes comes funding of some sort. It's just a pity that the crowds only go to the street meetings, because they are so much more dangerous. Saw the bruising on nicki's legs, damn. A lot of people were busy crashing.

[R6_kid:Me]

I remember hearing someone saying that you must also hold the applicable road licence for the bike you are riding? So anyone on a bike over 250cc shoud be on their full?

[Quasievil]

I remember hearing someone saying that you must also hold the applicable road licence for the bike you are riding? So anyone on a bike over 250cc shoud be on their full?

Ive never shown my road licence to anyone in racing scrutineering or applications that I recall

[Drew]

Jesus Shaun, the rule says you have to have street race experience, or three races under your belt in the year leading up to the event.

Where does it end??? Take a break from racing and never be allowed back.

Fuck the bubble wrap, and HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!

[Shaun]

Jesus Shaun, the rule says you have to have street race experience, or three races under your belt in the year leading up to the event.

Where does it end??? Take a break from racing and never be allowed back.

Fuck the bubble wrap, and HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!

Or just be a crasher because of lack of experience and an over active ego, your choice dude

[Shaun]

Ive never shown my road licence to anyone in racing scrutineering or applications that I recall

I laughed my tits off at that this year as well dude, the rules do say to race on the streets here you must have a civ license, but I never asked to prove it, and never saw any one getting asked either.

As it is a street race, it still comes under civil laws, ( AS SUCH) so if you had a serious accident where some one was hurt, the police would have been called in to check it out, ( And that could lead to a manslaughter charge or some thing similar) and if the rider had no civil license, shit would hit the fan big time