What do you make of this cornering advice?

[Tone165]

To see so much thought and discussion going on after ppl have veiwed the ad...I say "Money well spent"

As for acuracy etc...does it matter???

If you apply every technique offered in a magazine....well you know what I mean..riding is a seat of the pants thing, theory is good, as a starting point, but experience judgement and ability are what matter in real situations.

reminds me of the story about aging where they say we start with an empty "Experience" jar and a full "Luck" one..the trick is to fill one before you empty tother!

[swbarnett]

To see so much thought and discussion going on after ppl have veiwed the ad...I say "Money well spent"

As for acuracy etc...does it matter???

Yes and no. If they're not accurate then sooner or later they lose credibility and prople just ignore them.

[rocketman1]

The correct track IMO is to stay out wide longer.
The incorrect position would be to be close into the left side of the road

[Taz]

I reckon those big white letters painted on the road would be slippery, especially if wet.

[dubshack]

I believe that the ad was pulled from magazines following a letter to the editor of one magazine. The letter was written by the school director of the California Superbike School in Australia stating that the advert was technically incorrect and could kill people if they took the advise. New riders may read it and believe it if they know no better.
It has been recommended that TAS(?) in Oz who were responsible for the ad gets future ads approved by people who actually know what they are talking about.

[MsKABC]

I believe that the ad was pulled from magazines following a letter to the editor of one magazine. The letter was written by the school director of the California Superbike School in Australia stating that the advert was technically incorrect and could kill people if they took the advise. New riders may read it and believe it if they know no better.
It has been recommended that TAS(?) in Oz who were responsible for the ad gets future ads approved by people who actually know what they are talking about.

Hmmm, that's interesting! Thanks for sharing

[dipshit]

It's not an ad about lines through corners... it's an ad about going in too hot and running wide.

[McJim]

It's not an ad about lines through corners... it's an ad about going in too hot and running wide.

So if noobies read it and kill themselves that's alright then?

Hmmmmm - another appropriate name......

[dipshit]

So if noobies read it and kill themselves that's alright then?

I guess they didn't count on that some motorcyclists were that dumb.

[cowpoos]

Surely those lines are entirely relative to the speed that the motorcycle is taking the corner.

As we don't know that, the ad is rather misleading.

And I think katman has sumed it up.......

[cowpoos]

We spotted this in a mag last night and it kind of annoyed us because it seemed to be technically inaccurate. We didn't think either of the lines were correct and it didn't acknowledge the fact that the corner tightens as you go around it, so in fact the most likely part of the corner where you'd end up on the wrong side would be at the end of it as you get onto the straight.

I guess the concept of the ad didn't lend itself to technical accuracy and it would have lost dramatic effect otherwise.

Sorry about the pix, no scanner here at home.

and to behonest....the sugested line is actually a brillent line for slow in fast out riding all the mentors of here advocate...

First of all its got a nice entry...there is far more room for adjustment mid corner if needed...it would lend the rider to lean the bike over much more progressivly than staying out wide...so there is no sudden loading of the front end...and you could smothly roll on the throttle through out the corner.

I would be interested if those that disagree could draw thier preffered line on to the picture and explain why thier line is better.

[jrandom]

I think everyone's really overanalysing that advertisement, to be honest.

It's a simple attempt to say 'don't cross the centerline'.

The precise approach necessary to not cross the centerline will vary for every corner in different conditions.

Surely people are not out there on motorcycles on the road going round arbitrary corners thinking "hmm, now, that magazine ad line went here, so I will turn now..."

[Gareth123]

Not sure if this has been mentioned because I didn't read everyones posts, perhaps the government showed those lines because it forces a biker to go slower around the corner. perhaps there are 2 goals with this ad.

1, To make riders think about thier cornering.
2, To try and slow riders down when they go around corners to give them more time to react to anything that pops up.

[cowpoos]

Not sure if this has been mentioned because I didn't read everyones posts, perhaps the government showed those lines because it forces a biker to go slower around the corner. perhaps there are 2 goals with this ad.

1, To make riders think about thier cornering.
2, To try and slow riders down when they go around corners to give them more time to react to anything that pops up.

slower??? that would be a good fast line on a race track!!! so what the hell are you talking about?

[Gareth123]

Having never raced I wouldn'tknow what a fast race line around a track would be. I just look at those pictures and think that I wouldn't take either line. Unless I actually rode a bike round that corner I wouldn't know what line I'd take.

The one they are recommending seems to leave very little chance of avoiding something that is unexpected like a bicycle in the middle of the corner, especially if you were going fast.

(BTW still new to riding, don't flame me too much)