Gaza

[davereid]

I laughed last night when the un condemd israels actions then follow it up with a request for 3 hour stand down. Israel and hamash comply. 20 minutes after the 3 hours who throws the first bomb? Hamash...... ..... now who started it again?

Israel can't end this war by stopping shooting, only Hamas can.

Israel can end the war by keeping shooting, approx 25000 Hamas to go.

And if you don't want a man in a turban insisting that you get a turban just like his, then lets hope Israel do a good job of it.

Hamas have the first goal of the destruction of Israel. Their second goal is the destruction of everything else.

[jrandom]

The Balfour declaration:

"My legs are so swollen!"

While you're all busily Thinking of the Children (tm), here's a link with some actual analysis of the political environment. FWIW.

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20090...nd_arab_states

[slowpoke]

As usual we choose to shoot the messenger rather than listen to the message. It's such an irritating noise, distracting us from our cosseted lil' lives, why won't the fucker just shut up so we can concentrate on the cricket? Most of us don't even know what he's protesting about and yet we dismiss him out of hand. Agree or disagree at least he has the courage to stand up against what he sees as injustice, despite the inevitable abuse hurled his way.

But you're right, the cricket/tennis is on and it's on the other side of the world so who gives a fuck, eh? We don't want to know what they are scrapping about we don't even particularly care if it stops or goes on forever, we just want our precious quiet time with the telly.....

For what it's worth, here's something from www.newstatesman.com:

In May, the Glasgow University Media Group, distinguished for its pioneering media analysis, published a study of the reporting of the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict. It ought to be required reading in newsrooms and media schools. The research showed that the public's lack of understanding of the conflict and its origins was compounded by news reporting, especially on television.

Viewers, says the study, are rarely told that the Palestinians are victims of an illegal military occupation. The term "occupied territories" is almost never explained. Indeed, only 9 per cent of young people interviewed knew that the Israelis were the occupiers and the "settlers" were Israeli.

The selective use of language is important. The study found that words such as "murder", "atrocity", "lynching" and "savage, cold-blooded killing" were used only to describe Israeli deaths. "The extent to which some journalism assumes the Israeli perspective," wrote Professor Greg Philo, "can be seen if the statements are 'reversed' and presented as Palestinian actions. [We] did not find any [news] reports stating that 'The Palestinian attacks were in retaliation for the murder of those resisting the illegal Israeli occupation'."

Given that the central truth of the conflict is routinely obscured, none of this is surprising. News and current affairs programmes seldom, if ever, remind viewers that Israel was established largely by force on 78 per cent of historic Palestine and, since 1967, has illegally occupied and imposed various forms of military rule on the remaining 22 per cent.

I could go on about the atrocities commited by the Israeli forces in Jenin and Nablus (amongst others) but I'm guessing you'll find the cricket/tennis more important........

[BIGBOSSMAN]

But you're right, the cricket/tennis is on and it's on the other side of the world so who gives a fuck, eh? We don't want to know what they are scrapping about we don't even particularly care if it stops or goes on forever, we just want our precious quiet time with the telly.....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_KIzbktgJk&feature=related[/youtube]

[MisterD]

The trouble is Slowpoke, that the media also fail to mention that the historic homeland for the Palestinian people is actually across Jordan and Syrian territory (The "West Bank" is Jordanian territory which Israel took when it was attacked).

The Arab nations have no affection for the Palestinans, who are actually from the same "semitic" stock as the Jews and it's in their interests that Israel continue to keep them down and to get the international flack for doing so...

[Fatjim]

Actually, the roots go back to when God promised Moses the land. We're talking 4000+ years ago at a guess. You aint going to be able to deal with that, except letting them fight it out.

Lets face it. The Jews have been kicked out of Palistine/Isreal/Judah more times than I've pulled wheelies. they keep coming back although they know the shit they're ghetting themselves into. Why? Because they believe that they have been promised the land, and to abandon that promise is to abandon their god. Thats pretty powerfull.

[Hitcher]

There is a solution to this: destroy completely the state of Israel and disputed neighbouring territories. Unlike this current supporating sore, a nuclear wasteland will eventually heal itself. Start by obliterating the city of Jerusalem to prove that the world is serious.

If over-indulged children can't share the toys, take the toys away. Parenting 101.

[jetboy]

Actually, the roots go back to when God promised Moses the land.

There's the bloody problem right there! Why doesn't God live up to his promise?

I saw that Minto protest on the tele and had to refrain from throwing something at it...that tennis player doesn't have anything to do with what's happening overseas, and neither does Minto.

Stop being a turd with a stick Minto, and if you mean what you say go and hold your sign up in Israel.

[Fatjim]

There is a solution to this: destroy completely the state of Israel and disputed neighbouring territories. Unlike this current supporating sore, a nuclear wasteland will eventually heal itself. Start by obliterating the city of Jerusalem to prove that the world is serious.

If over-indulged children can't share the toys, take the toys away. Parenting 101.

I think your cure is a little worse than the disease.

[pritch]

Unlike this current supporating sore,

Can it be you really meant "suppurating"?

[Hitcher]

I think your cure is a little worse than the disease.

Please feel free to suggest a workable alternative.

[Hitcher]

Can it be you really meant "suppurating"?

Gahh! Thud.

[Lias]

Minto is a twat, always was a twat, always will be a twat. John.

Well said

There is a solution to this: destroy completely the state of Israel and disputed neighbouring territories. Unlike this current supporating sore, a nuclear wasteland will eventually heal itself. Start by obliterating the city of Jerusalem to prove that the world is serious.

If over-indulged children can't share the toys, take the toys away. Parenting 101.

Gets my vote.

[Owl]

Maha for PM!

You tell em dude!

[imdying]

There is a solution to this: destroy completely the state of Israel and disputed neighbouring territories. Unlike this current supporating sore, a nuclear wasteland will eventually heal itself. Start by obliterating the city of Jerusalem to prove that the world is serious.

If over-indulged children can't share the toys, take the toys away. Parenting 101.

Well I'll be... Hitcher wants to turn all the sand niggers into glass... top idea man!

Only question is, do we stop before or after India, Pakistan, etc etc, they're roughly neighbouring

/edit: Oscar makes a good point... other than by birth, is she actually officially representing Israel?