Just to play devil's advocate here, would you still feel the same if it were say owned by a spanish family/company who only wanted spanish people on it?
Technically, if it is private property....
Just to play devil's advocate here, would you still feel the same if it were say owned by a spanish family/company who only wanted spanish people on it?
Technically, if it is private property....
What about Traditional folk who want to manage their resources the way it's worked for a lot longer than us whiteys have been doing it.
If reckon if you went to the big kahuna and said - dude, mind if I have a dip - all would be cool anyway - just don't set up a sand mine eh bro.
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Extension of customary fishing rights/traditional resource management is fine, but barring people from the beach and fines are rediculous.
I thought the point of the seabed and foreshore act was to nationalise the coast for the benefit of every New Zealander.
If it were private property then they can be racist assholes all that they like but it shouldn't be private property.
there will probably be a rise in maori kids drowning then
Go sit on a beach where shell fish live just as the dawn is comming,
Watch all the little yellow things rushing around ,
Think "MMM, thats all the paua, kinners, scollops, musells, crabs dissapearing"
Then watch all the yellow things dissapear off to their takaway bars,
Latter in the day watch all the white things flock to said takeaway spots,
Gather their avrodisiac feed for the nights slapper from yellow things.
Go home sit in front of magic boxes
watch the propogander called the news
and all you will hear is
"Fucking maori want to stop everyone using the foreshore and coast line"
as they munch on their musells, paua. crab sticks !
Not thinking about the market they create with their indifference
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And what a poor pathetic joke the campground has become. Paranoia tells me that this is what the locals (Maoris) want. There is not a single beach/roadside casual camp that is not marked "Fuck off honky - reserved for the bros" (what the signs mean, anyway).
The few organised campgrounds would appear to have their days numbered. The one at Te Kaha has been there (privately run) for I don't know how long and was bought by the local Runanga (whatever that means) and an entire family has been put in to run it. Incompetent, uncaring and arrogant is what these people are. We will not go back there. And as I said, I suspect that this is part of a long term plan by the wider tribe/s of the region.
Shame, as the entire East Coast is a beautiful place. It's isolation, undeveloped nature and the uninterrupted settlement by Maori mean it is a little different from the rest of coastal NZ. I resent the 'removal' of my right to visit and enjoy the splendour of the place as we all have been able to do since a road made it accessible.
Watch out for toll booths east of Opotiki and north of Gisborne....
And shortly thereafter , passports and visas at the border control
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Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Just legalising the current "tax" thats often hoisted upon visitors by large intimidating locals.
Remind me again how well the Moa resources were managed and by extention (or should I say extinction) the Haast eagle?
We were given a good speil at MIT last semester about Maori traditional values and great emphasis was placed on Kaitiakitanga. I couldn't help thinking that this term is a politically motivated revisionist modern invention.
I think banning any ethnic group from having access to certain NZ beaches is ultimately bad for advancing racial harmony across the country. We already have kebab shop owners inflaming racial tensions in Invercargill, do we really need this too?
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it's just fuckin bullshit, no cunt's telling me what beach i can and cant go on. and if they try to slap a fine or i'll feed them to the shark's![]()
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