250 riders and road rage.

[kunoichi]

Haha sorry! typo! i meant 6th. Despite the extra gear, i don't think it changes the take off speed. It's still a 250 engine never the less...isn't that right?

[Slyer]

Yeah, 6 gear is really a overdrive gear though unless you are going near top speed.

[kunoichi]

Well then don't really understand wot those guys were going on about in the 1st page of this thread, about 250's not being able to take off fast enough... *shrugs*

[NOWOOL]

Yeah, np going fast off the curb, must be to do with top speed riding on lite bikes.

[Maki]

I have seen road rage, flashing lights, tooting horns and waved fists but I deserved it. I was in a hurry and lane split when there was only one lane going in each direction. I should not have, so I deserved all the road rage I got...

[DarkLord]

I've deserved it a few times too admittedly, pulling out too late, whacking wing mirrors while splitting, etc. None of us are perfect.

[The Pastor]

i just pull out my shotgun

[GinjaNinja]

Ive tend to get a lot of people who go fast in the slower speed limits and then go slow in the 100km zones. There was a woman last week who was doing her makeup or something at 80km swerving from left to right. Or the people who are too busy talking or yelling at the passenger next to them. I back way off or get past them as safely as possible. You dont want them going 'Anchors away!' in front of you when they finally wake up.

As far as road rage goes I only get angry at boy racers cause i hate them and i wish more of them would die.
Had one of them decide he wanted to kill me and the driver of a car last week we he cut up the outside of me (going outside the lane) and then cut across my lane and into the left hand lane right in front of a car about to turn left at the approaching round about. He then turned right at the roundabout from the left turn lane in front of a couple of vans. All this was done at 130km Plus.

Some people are Beyond Stupid.

[Badjelly]

I've deserved it a few times too admittedly, pulling out too late, whacking wing mirrors while splitting, etc. None of us are perfect.

Though some of us are closer to perfection than others.

[wbks]

Well then don't really understand wot those guys were going on about in the 1st page of this thread, about 250's not being able to take off fast enough... *shrugs*

They take off fast from a slow speed, but unlike a 600 or a liter bike you can't just roll it on in top gear if someone's tailgating you and you're gone like that. Unlike any 250, two stroke or four, which you would need to drop down 2 gears and give it full gas if you wanted to get out of somewhere in a hurry, and even then it really isn't all that rapid.

So no, 250's don't have the power to get out of difficult situation as good as you want. I was riding around Taupo full track for the MotoTT and during the warm up laps in the first session cruzing at 100 or so km/h in 12 thousand revs which is about entering a good power range, and even then tucked in and at full throttle it isn't describable as fast.

Fast for a 250 sure, and fast around a track with the right rider compared to a 400, even slower 600 riders but it's not like a bigger bike where you could just give it more gas when you see something happening and you're gone.

Does change accel having a 6th gear, konoichi. A 5speed and a 6 speed 250 would still only get roughly the same speed, but more gears means closer ratio's which means faster take off

[newbould]

Being tailgated - back off a bit so you have room in front - you will need to emergency brake more slowly so the tailgater doesn't go over the top of you. seeing red kills - simple. Predict that cagers will pull into your lane, roll off the gas to let them. Predict it by watching their head twitch sideways as if checking behind them or when they are talking faster than their brains can work in which case they could go anywhere. As posted many times before don't even think about believing indicators. My indicator story - 1 trip I had a cage indicate right whilst I was following him, then pull over to the left and stop - stupidest law in the NZ road code and I'm pretty sure only in NZ. Then 1 k down the road next cage in front of me indicated left, pulled out wide to the right - me thinks ahah an articulated ford fiesta - then he turns right! Go figure.

Road rage story - biking up to Ranfurly up the pigroute - best road ever. Long straight just before Ranfurly this cager overtakes me (I'm sitting at 100) and manages to get 1/2 his car over to the right lane - the other half has his wife just a bout sitting on my lap. I should have just eased over to the left but I was too shocked to think about it. Any way I follow him into Ranfurly thinking about the polite message I will give him and sure enough he stops for a pee or whatever and I pull in behind him. Out gets grandad and waddles round his car. I just couldn't be bothered trying to explain! And then felt like a woos for the rest of the day.

[Monolith NZ]

I was in Christchurch late last year and I was behind some tosser in a ute as we both waited to turn right at an intersection. Out of the blue he decided to start reversing, I had hardly any time to think about what has happening before his rear bumper had ridden up on my front tire (and possibly my front guard but I couldn't see). So I start freaking out and begin to scream at him to move forward while I tried to jerk my tire out from under him, to which I eventually succeeded. As I was doing this I could see him watching in the rear view mirror, somehow oblivious to my frantic arm motions and screaming to move the f**k forward.

After I pulled it out I turned my handle bars to the side to inspect my guard, and luckily the bumper hadn't ridden up that far so it was fine. Then the dick decides to run the red light and burns it up over the Washington bridge. By now I was enraged and decided to follow without waiting for the green, taking it hard I caught up almost instantly () and tried to signal for him to pull over (may have thrown a few other unkindly gestures in there also), so I could let him know what an idiot he was. He gave me the finger and turned left down a side street. I decided it was best to leave it as I was lucky enough to escape any damage and the enraged fit I was in was distracting me from riding safely.

I know Its wasn't the best way for me to react but the anger was so intense that I couldn't bare to let him hoon it off.

Apart from that outburst and the occasional swear word I think my road rage has been kept below radar.

[howdamnhard]

Hi there,

I've had a few episodes of this - mainly on the main motorway heading in to Auckland. I've had wankers in cars sitting close enough for me to turn around and touch them and the other night I had some prick who was so insistent I get out of his way he turned his fucking high-beam lights on. I didn't move of course - I just sat there until he gave up and turned off. I honestly felt like following the car and giving the stupid bastard a hairdryer treatment when he got out.

I'm usually a fairly quiet and patient sort of person but I take no prisoners on the road - I refuse to be pushed around by anyone and I refuse to get out of someone's way who just wants to be intimidating. Call it a character flaw if you will, and I am not beyond admitting to my own faults and problems - but there is just this intense part of me that just refuses to be pushed around when I'm on the road, and I would rather stand firm than give in to someone's over inflated ego who needs to feel big by intimidating a motorcyclist.

My question is to all of you who ride 250cc bikes - most of us don't really have the power to just take off when it comes to situations like that, so how do you find it best to deal with situations like this? Also as many of us are fairly new to riding, has anyone ever had any accidents or near misses they would care to share with us due to car drivers trying to push them around?

Ride safe

Graham.

Hi Graham, I used to be like you about my rights,however physics does'nt give two hoots about rights. I tend to ride slightly faster than the surrounding traffic,keeps dickheads off my tail.I believe in not holding people up , so if I'm holding somebody up I just let them go past,its the courteous thing to do and what I would like someone to do for me if the roles were reversed.
Bikes have two advantages over cages,they accelerate faster and fit in tighter spaces, if you can't use either get out of the way.Let the idiot go on his merry way and total himself somewhere else.Oh and you can report him if you don't like his driving,enough reports will bring them to the boys in blues attention.
Ride safe
Pierre

[RocKai]

Hey Monolith, nice try mate. But What TF can you do in a situation like that? I wish I could sue his sorry ass but even that nothing will change. I reckon follow him and stab his tyres son-of-a-bit#$.

For me it was just this afternoon, I was on my way to work on the Gorge Welly, this red ute just cut accross my lane nearly ran on top of me with his indication on for about half a second. I was surprised but wasn't pissed. He then suddenly pull his brake hard and I nearly bump into his behind, we were doing 50kmh at the moment. And then I passed him with full intention of pulling the finger but realize soon it was a grandpa so I toot off ahead.

[newbould]

.Oh and you can report him if you don't like his driving,enough reports will bring them to the boys in blues attention.
Ride safe
Pierre

here is the link to report bad driving on line. You want to have as much detail as possible - make sure licence plate (needed) and colour and model match up.
http://www.police.govt.nz/service/road/roadwatch.html