what im getting at ..
we have a term in the States called " Armchair Quarterback"
thats the guy who sits on his fat ass every sunday afternoon, never having played a game of football in his life and screaming
" you idiot!! .. why didnt you do XXX"
like hes frigging Vince Lombardi or some shit ..
how do you guys think that cop feels .. hes probably under 30 ( i havnt read).. young family at home .. and he's just taken an innocent life ...
bet hes in a GREAT mood today
certainly glad you guys woulda done it differently .. i feel much safer now
im constantly armed ..just in case some of you guys try and help me.. and no i dont need a gun..
you want to make a differnece ?? .. .go to a recruiting night for the police .. join the army as infantry.. or the navy as combat specialist ..
then come tell us how in control and tough you are once you are faced with that choice
maybe he woulda stopped shooting long enough for you to reason with him and give him a big hug
sorry .. Harley Speak..
WINDERRS
Ok got that part now thanks, just wanted clarification.
Like I said I wasnt sure at what you meant, likely the officer in question feels like shit, he or she is possibly worried about the ramifications of the softly softly bunch, who through their actions have hamstrung his or her abilities to act effectively in a terrible and challenging situation.
I would have done nothing differently or nor do I expect the officer to have, what I would like to see is the officer supported by the public, and government, and the police supported with better access to training and practice.
Like hell I think its a shame one more round was not fired, into the offenders head
Its not the destination that is important its the journey.
Hmm, should read more carefully next time, I thought it was three criminals in the car and one was shot dead, but it appears it was innocent guy, and criminal just got wounded. Completely changes the picture, collateral damage then, sorry for the guy.
Yeah good point. We don't have many armed events in NZ for the size of our police force so most officers will only come across such situations rarely. Hard to train for something which is unlikely when most of the time its burglaries, common assault, traffic etc. Hard to justify the training time too for excellence in firearms.
All very well talking about the army, navy etc but their raison d'etre is combat. Yes, peacekeeping plays a part but weapons familiarity is primary.
Still, I have to say I was alarmed at the dog shooting debacle recently caught on video. Firing long guns in a suburb at a dog - and missing!!! - seemed incredibly dangerous as well as incompetent. I'd have thought an AOS officer could take out a dog with a Glock pretty quick.![]()
Thing that pisses me off is the wanker that set all this off will be laughing at the cops and taking the piss from a comfy prison cell![]()
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That comment is just silly. On so many levels. Don't forget it was a couple of Constables armed with Glocks who took down Graeme Burton. If they had had to have called in the AOS, goodness knows how many more people may have been shot and killed -- including the Constables in question.
One thing I learned many moons ago is that lead in the air does not necessarily follow the shortest distance between muzzle and whatever it finally hits. Let's presume that the Police investigate this thoroughly and that the facts are presented in the fullness of time.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
sorry mate, fair call, but in my defence I assure you that you are one amoungst a very very small few.....so please understand when I say things like that- perhaps I should have written 99% of kiwis!
where would you like me to go? Back to St Mary's hospital (auckland), Tauranga (I spent my teenage years here), or out of Massey back to Whenuapai? (Obviously i'm a kiwi, umpteen generation, even with a bit of darkie bit mixed in from up north actually)
Please refer to my above statement, my statements merely reflect my experience, and yes, a different line of wording would have been more appropriate- but I do find it difficult not to make statements like this after being assaulted by kiwis protesting the war when on leave during basic training (my crime was walking past the protest in uniform which I did'nt even know was on)
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