So, a rozza enters my home...

[marty]

what are the legalities of RBT?

[twotyred]

No problem with with the test. Just the fact that he "thought" it was me. (there are a few people around, and he was about three minutes astern of me), never saw me in the car, or get out of it.
Then pushed it further by entering the house, still pushing it, stood over me using every angle he could think to flog a dead, disinterested old horse.
He will learn, actually, I gave him a free lesson in the legalities of random breath testing. i'm such a kind sole.

I'd push it on the entering your house without a warrant or invitation,just to expedite the new patch members education about what is actually acceptable.

[tri boy]

what are the legalities of RBT?

The legal approach/argument would be "that Rosa had every right to lick the rozza into submission due to negligent use of his newby powers".

[Dave Lobster]

To impede an officer of the Law, in the execution of his duties, still is.... I believe, against the law....

What about impeding an officer whilst he wastes police time??

About ten minutes before Mr Key's arrival this morning two undercover police officers were busted by Marae security staff for posing as tourists.

Shouldn't the police have busted a few fat people for posing as 'security'??

[vifferman]

However there is far less tolerance of either by the Police these days since despite the level of drink driving and speeding dropping fatalities are still about the same.....

What?

I think you'll find that the number of fatalities has dropped, whether as a percentage of the total population, or per number of vehicles, or the number of vehicle kilometres traveled. And the road toll is lower than the number of deaths from prostrate cancer, smoking related diseases, etc etc etc blah blah blah...

[meteor]

...the level of drink driving and speeding dropping fatalities are still about the same.....

Interesting since this last year saw about 360 fatalities against nearly 1000 15 yrs ago. They are dropping, and it's not by accident (pardon the pun) it's by the coppers hammering the drunks and speeders which changes the behaviour. And no, not for revenue but to keep me safe... I thank them for that.

Now back on topic... I wonder if those cops on that alcohol checkpoint had a dollar for every drunk that turned into the nearest driveway to avoid the checkpoint and claimed it was their house, just how rich they'd be? Can't see the problem really, maybe that checkpoint did stop a drunk that was just about to kill your daughter or your dad as they turned into your driveway. Have I missed something? Maybe it's you who should be thanking them.

[jafar]

Make the complaint !
The Police have no right to come onto your property with such a piss poor excuse.
The Officer has no right to follow you into your house either.
It is not ok for them to do that.

Don't bother with the local idjits , go straight to the police complaints authority

[tri boy]

what are the legalities of RBT?

Now back on topic... I wonder if those cops on that alcohol checkpoint had a dollar for every drunk that turned into the nearest driveway to avoid the checkpoint and claimed it was their house, just how rich they'd be?

The young fulla stood over me as i logged onto my email server.
If I was illegally entering a house, then I must be one hell of a computer hacker.
Should of emailed his superiors there n then.
Layed down his version of resisting an enquiry(or something like that. I had switched off by then).
The turning point of the stalemate was when I asked him if he could honestly prove that it was me in the car.
Rosa wagged her tail as he drove out the gate.

A friendly email to Leo Tooman may be sent tomorrow.

[Pedrostt500]

No - actual drink driving is waaaaay down on previous decades (there used to be a real laisez faire attitude on this suject - no-one batted an eyelid when you drove home drunk from the pub). So is actual speeding believe it or not. However there is far less tolerance of either by the Police these days since despite the level of drink driving and speeding dropping fatalities are still about the same.....

If ya didnt drive home absolutly legless you were a ferken wowser.

[MaxB]

Interesting since this last year saw about 360 fatalities against nearly 1000 15 yrs ago. They are dropping, and it's not by accident (pardon the pun) it's by the coppers hammering the drunks and speeders which changes the behaviour. And no, not for revenue but to keep me safe... I thank them for that.

Ah, the old 'valiant police waging war against the acohol-crazed speeding spawn of Satan' approach.

There are heaps of posts and data elsewhere on this list but to sum it up. Speed over the posted limit is the listed as the cause of very few fatalities these days. In the UK the figure is 6%. So issuing a record number of tickets for offences just over the limit isn't going to do much.

Extreme speeding and excessive drunk driving account for very few road deaths. The LTSA won't tell you that. Most fatalities happen in urban areas and are for mundane causes eg crossing the centre line, corners, intersections, red lights, leaving the roadway, no seat belt, u-turns etc etc.

If you look at the ACC stats you will find that we are having more crashes than ever before. Its just that they are more survivable.

Cars have better passive safety features then ever before. Driver training is also much improved over the last 20 years (although we are behind other places) and these 2 factors are the 2 most commonly credited improvement factors over this period. Better trained drivers are driving safer cars (side impact airbags anyone?).

If we followed some European countries and were trained to the same level our fatality rate would halve and we would have higher open road speed limits and lower blood alcohol limits.

[piston broke]

Well there wasn't such a large portion of people drink driving once apon a time either. If you're not pissy than maybe don't lodge a comment that could screw something up for a new officer. Do what you want though, I don't care

mate it's only the last 20 years they started worrying about drink driving.
screw the new orificer,wtf was he doin in someones bedroom without a warrant.
he deserves a broken jaw and the dole

[Brian d marge]

Make the complaint !
The Police have no right to come onto your property with such a piss poor excuse.
The Officer has no right to follow you into your house either.
It is not ok for them to do that.

Don't bother with the local idjits , go straight to the police complaints authority

+1 , sure help them out if u feel inclined ,,, but unless u asked them in ..( sorta like Vampires ) they stay outside on the legally provided access way to your house ... the front door ...

show me the money ... for distress caused to the dog .....

Stephen
I reckon anyway

[sinfull]

What about impeding an officer whilst he wastes police time??



Shouldn\'t the police have busted a few fat people for posing as \'security\'??

Posing ? Nah they were there to sniff out the cops ! Some say there noses are better than the average mutt !

[Dave Lobster]

Posing ? Nah they were there to sniff out the cops ! Some say there noses are BIGGER than the average mutt !

You can't get air on WINZ.

[davereid]

a rozza pulls up...I need you to undertake a evidential breath test, as I believe you were driving that car"..

Its for the good of society. Only a criminal, or someone with something to hide would be offended by this.

You should have given him the breath test, just in case you were the driver of the car, and just in case you had been drinking.

You should also have invited him to search you, just in case you had some drugs, or an illegal weapon.

You should have asked him to search your home, just in case you had some stolen property.

And before he left, you should have given him a DNA sample, just in case the police find it handy in the future.