So, a rozza enters my home...

[Winston001]

I.........be used as a lever to demand yet more incursions upon our ancient rights and freedoms. And secondly from the suspicion that the new powers will promptly be abused by the police

This thread (and indeed your post) is the PERFECT illustration of how well justifed those suspicions are.

Dang. The Fall Of Western Civilisation. And it all started in Invercargill. Thanks Ix it's a heavy burden but I'm up for it. And to think I almost joined Socialist Unity at varsity......

[davereid]

Go and photograph them, excessively, from all angles and close up.

That has already been made difficult in the UK. Police regularly confiscate cameras or cellphone if you take pictures of them.

[Dave Lobster]

That has already been made difficult in the UK. Police regularly confiscate cameras or cellphone if you take pictures of them.

Only if they can catch you. A few friends and I used to take photos of the fat ones, and send them to the chief constable.

[scumdog]

Only if they can catch you. A few friends and I used to take photos of the fat ones, and send them to the chief constable.

Wow, that sounds pretty exciting!!, have you any good tips on the proper angle to photograph them, what film to use etc??

[jrandom]

Wow, that sounds pretty exciting!!, have you any good tips on the proper angle to photograph them, what film to use etc??

Cop spotting, eh. I guess it's like trainspotting or bird watching, but with hoodies instead of anoraks.

[Dave Lobster]

Wow, that sounds pretty exciting!!, have you any good tips on the proper angle to photograph them, what film to use etc??

Just make sure you've got a wide angle lens

[peasea]

Wow, that sounds pretty exciting!!, have you any good tips on the proper angle to photograph them, what film to use etc??

Film? Film? This is the digital age man! Wake up! Check these two turkeys: the one in the centre of the frame doesn't look like he wants his piccie taken (tough shit) and the other looks like he could do with a few sit-ups. On top of hiding (or trying to hide) behind a lamp post (in a dip) they parked in a 'No Parking' zone to set up the cash register.

One rule for some etc.....

[ManDownUnder]

Only if they can catch you. A few friends and I used to take photos of the fat ones, and send them to the chief constable.

For God's sake... why? What're you trying to achieve?

[Dave Lobster]

For God's sake... why? What're you trying to achieve?

Because we were paid by the government at the time too, and could run a mile and a half in eight and a half minutes. None of the fat cunts paid to catch burglars/muggers/thieves could touch their toes, let alone chase a villian.
They'd got plenty of time to wonder up and down the rows of bikes in Stratford handing out tickets for noisy (looking) exhausts and slightly small number plates, but they were too bone idle to check frame numbers looked intact, and matched plates.

[ManDownUnder]

Because we were paid by the government at the time too, and could run a mile and a half in eight and a half minutes. None of the fat cunts paid to catch burglars/muggers/thieves could touch their toes, let alone chase a villian.
They'd got plenty of time to wonder up and down the rows of bikes in Stratford handing out tickets for noisy (looking) exhausts and slightly small number plates, but they were too bone idle to check frame numbers looked intact, and matched plates.

sooo... you took the photos and sent them to someone in authority to prove you were fitter than the local cop? Or is it because they weren't paying enough attention to an aspect of their job you (in your infinite wisdom) deem more important?

And as a govt employee... I hope you weren't taking photos on my time.

[Dave Lobster]

sooo... you took the photos and sent them to someone in authority to prove you were fitter than the local cop? .

No, for a laugh.

Or is it because they weren't paying enough attention to an aspect of their job you (in your infinite wisdom) deem more important?

I'd be more than happy to have my bike checked to see if it was stolen.. And if my bike does end up stolen, I'd expect police (already in attendance) to be checking for stolen bikes at a large 'meet'. Solely giving out tickets for minor infractions does nothing for police/public relations, other than make them look like money collecting cunts.

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And as a govt employee... I hope you weren't taking photos on my time.

Of course not. Unless you were paying taxes in ingerlund in the 90s.. and the country more than got its money's worth out of me.

[Patrick]

Try reading the NZ Bill of Rights 1990.
The bit about "unreasonable search or seizure".
There' a Catch 22 situation here: If the rozza had of followed through with his demand for a breath test, he would have been well within his rights. But he didn't, so he breached Tri-boys human rights by following him into his house.

Sigh... bush lawyers...

No he didn't. Entry was lawful. He decided not to push it and left when asked = No trespass.

The first the rozza would have seen of OP was ehen he saw the oncoming car turn into the drive. SO he would have to start his car, put on his seat belt, pull out, drive 200 meters, pull into the driveway, stop, undo his seatbelt, secure the car, walk through into the house, find the OP. Five to ten minutes seems reasonable. It's not just the time to drive 200 meters

Jesus... must be a fat bastard who is driving a matchbox car....

As I read it the rozza was never behind the OP. The OP was heading toward the checkpoint , whence one assumes the rozza came from. The cop would not have started up until the car turned into the driveway. So by the time the cop was actually on the road (heading TOWARD Mr TB , not behind him), Mr TB would have been stopped and parked up.

And why would the cop have any reasonable grounds to believe Mr TB had been drinking and driving? That is the nub of the matter.

Ummm... approaching a checkpoint and turning into a driveway, to avoid it, at a real crazy guess... but hey, that never happens...??? Dunno what that cop was thinking. His powers of reading minds must have been turned off not to realise at the time he turned off that he actually lived there. Back to psychic school for that young rozzer...!!!

No one would object to a cop following someone when there was reason to suspect he was pissed. Indeed the ancient principle of hot pursuit covers that.

But Mr TB did nothing but drive into his driveway. As I did tonight. As I imagine you will when you return home at the end of your shift. Would the fact the you drove into your driveway justify me lodging a complaint about a police officer driving under the influence? "Yes, IPCA bod, I do indeed have reasonable grounds to believe that the officer was drink drinving. I know for a fact that he drove into his driveway. What more evidence do you require ?". Would you admit to it, on the basis of that evidence?

There was no pursuit. There was no grounds for any presumption that Mr TB had been drinking .

They often set up outside my home. I have had cops run down the drive after me twice, the wife a few times too... to do a passive test. NO problem. Ever. Done. Usually followed by me saying, "Want a coffee? Sorry out of donuts at the mo..."

Film? Film? This is the digital age man! Wake up! Check these two turkeys: the one in the centre of the frame doesn't look like he wants his piccie taken (tough shit) and the other looks like he could do with a few sit-ups. On top of hiding (or trying to hide) behind a lamp post (in a dip) they parked in a 'No Parking' zone to set up the cash register.

One rule for some etc.....

Large coppers "Trying to hide behind a lamp post..." in their day glow jackets... Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... Shit you're funny today....

No parking zone looks like a piece of council land.... and they have the parking exemption lights on the roofs...

[ManDownUnder]

No, for a laugh.

aaa ok - so you were having a laugh at the taxpayers' expense while proving the cops should have been doing something more productive - working as they are at.. the... taxpayers'... exp...

... did I miss something here?

[peasea]

No parking zone looks like a piece of council land.... and they have the parking exemption lights on the roofs...

It's actually a private driveway and so pleased you can still pick sarcasm, it's wasted on so many.

[peasea]

No, for a laugh.

I'd be more than happy to have my bike checked to see if it was stolen..

Me too. In fact I recall spying somewhere how many times my plate on the old FXR had been called up but I'd never been stopped. Whoever pulled it up while I was cruising along (oblivious to the check) was just checking to see if it had been stolen. No complaints here.