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    AMCC Presidents Report Feb 09

    Ok I have nothing to lose by raising this as I dont race but do hold a membership to AMCC. I got my AMCC newsletter this week and once again I am disappointed at the attack of the president on "sites" on the internet about the so called experts after the fact.

    It is 2009 and the internet means that people are able to express their opinions in an open forum. That includes racers, their support crews and spectators. Is it bad? Maybe? But a lot of the volunteers in the form of marshalls also frequent these websites.

    These sites also provide funding support, spectator support and free advertising. I will put my neck out and say I thought this report was pretty poor taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    Ok I have nothing to lose by raising this as I dont race but do hold a membership to AMCC. I got my AMCC newsletter this week and once again I am disappointed at the attack of the president on "sites" on the internet about the so called experts after the fact.

    It is 2009 and the internet means that people are able to express their opinions in an open forum. That includes racers, their support crews and spectators. Is it bad? Maybe? But a lot of the volunteers in the form of marshalls also frequent these websites.

    These sites also provide funding support, spectator support and free advertising. I will put my neck out and say I thought this report was pretty poor taste.
    I'm surprised the AMCC has even heard of the internet...I mean that's pretty modern of them!!!

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    What did it actually say?
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    hmpf.... seems you're more important than the regular marshalls... I haven't got my newsletter yet.

    So umm... whatcha talking aboot?

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    The quality of their news letter speaks volumes about the level of professionalism and engagement AMCC displays. It might have been appropriate in 1979, but seriously a 16 year old could whip something up more interesting.

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    Good point raised here MadDuck. I did mean to post this issue myself, but I'll speak to Mr Costello personally regarding it first as I don't think he understands fully what these "evil" websites are actually about.

    After having a wee chat I plan to respond to his report with a letter to the editor of the AMCC News Letter as I can't help but think his comments are mostly made in response to the fuss I made over a year ago.

    As for being "the next best thing who bows out when they find they don't have enough talent", it's interesting the names of who's support I had.

    Lawrence, Williams, Lees, Martin..... the list goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    What did it actually say?
    I'll give you a brief overview.

    The past organiser of Wanganui Cemetary Circuit stepped asside because of bullshit printed on Websites regarding how the event was run by no talent loosers with nothing better to do than bitch on the internet. These websites are evil and making it very difficult for clubs to run events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    I'll give you a brief overview.

    The past organiser of Wanganui Cemetary Circuit stepped asside because of bullshit printed on Websites regarding how the event was run by no talent loosers with nothing better to do than bitch on the internet.
    Way hey hey!

    Forget the bitter out-of-touch twat who wrote it, that's a big win for you and the other racers. Good on you for speaking out at the time on these forums. Just goes to show that the pen is occasionally mightier than the sword.

    A tale of race organisers who cocked up falling on their swords after racers used the internet to publish their disapproval. Best news I've heard all week, and I'm sure the readers of that newsletter will be able to read between the lines and see the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    I'll give you a brief overview.

    The past organiser of Wanganui Cemetary Circuit stepped asside because of bullshit printed on Websites regarding how the event was run by no talent loosers with nothing better to do than bitch on the internet. These websites are evil and making it very difficult for clubs to run events.
    And wasnt it soooo much better without them.Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    Ok I have nothing to lose by raising this as I dont race but do hold a membership to AMCC. I got my AMCC newsletter this week and once again I am disappointed at the attack of the president on "sites" on the internet about the so called experts after the fact.
    I have to agree. I thought having a "presidents report" with el presidente basically just ranting was pretty pathetic to say the least. Were it not for "sites" on the internet then I'm sure the complete fuckup at Wanganui would have all been hushed up and swept under the carpet like in the good old days.

    Why does he think guys who are/were fast on motorcycles are somehow experts at running motorcycle events/clubs/organisations? It's akin to watching world class soccer players failing miserably when they start managing a team.
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    Its funny really....the fact that the 'presidents report' was actually a 'slip in' added in later....must have been away on holiday somewhere and couldn't email it in to the printer (due to lack of internet ;-)) on time so probably wrote it on a serviette at a cafe somewhere and posted it in snail mail....then they typed it out on a typewriter and photocopied it just in time to slip it in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    Ok I have nothing to lose by raising this as I dont race but do hold a membership to AMCC. I got my AMCC newsletter this week and once again I am disappointed at the attack of the president on "sites" on the internet about the so called experts after the fact.

    It is 2009 and the internet means that people are able to express their opinions in an open forum. That includes racers, their support crews and spectators. Is it bad? Maybe? But a lot of the volunteers in the form of marshalls also frequent these websites.

    These sites also provide funding support, spectator support and free advertising. I will put my neck out and say I thought this report was pretty poor taste.
    I have not seen the report ( and nor am I really interested ) but Chris Costello has as much right to express his opinions as anyone else by whatever form of media. My 2 cents worth is that forums can effectively act as kangaroo courts where you are tried, found guilty and executed. Very often without the poor sod having any knowledge of the act.
    To demonstrate just what a sad country we have become in recent years I wrote a letter to my local newspaper midway through last year expressing my distaste at the then Government and supporting National party policy. Some less than enlightened soul very emotively wrote in suggesting that comments such as mine should be muzzled,the editor put him in his place and reminded him that we live in a democracy.
    Forums such as this very often bring out the very worst emotional nonsense in people, fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Chris Costello has as much right to express his opinions as anyone else by whatever form of media
    Thereby giving us all the opportunity to form an impression of him as a pompous, whining old twat.

    Ain't it funny how those who are hung in the court of public opinion generally provide their own rope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Forums such as this very often bring out the very worst emotional nonsense in people, fact.
    And yet in this case, forums such as this allowed racers who would otherwise have been voiceless to speak out publicly about grossly unfair and unprofessional treatment by race organisers.

    And their voices were heard, and those organisers fucked off. Top result!

    If the organisers had had any real excuse for what they did, they had just as much opportunity to defend themselves in public as anyone did to criticise them. But they didn't do that, did they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Thereby giving us all the opportunity to form an impression of him as a pompous, whining old twat.

    Ain't it funny how those who are hung in the court of public opinion generally provide their own rope?



    And yet in this case, forums such as this allowed racers who would otherwise have been voiceless to speak out publicly about grossly unfair and unprofessional treatment by race organisers.

    And their voices were heard, and those organisers fucked off. Top result!

    If the organisers had had any real excuse for what they did, they had just as much opportunity to defend themselves in public as anyone did to criticise them. But they didn't do that, did they?
    Well then, you have more than adequately reinforced the points I made that forums bring out the very worst in people. Its amazing that anyone is prepared to stick their hand up and organise anything given the foul mouthed emotive demeanour of so many.

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