2009 actrix vmcc winter series dates

[Tony.OK]

Once again a thread is turned into a bagging session...........................

Maybe some other reasons for not entering the Nats round are that Paeroa is a week away, its easier to pay for rounds that are a month apart, times are tough for everyone at present, if the 115% rule is applied alot of ppl wouldn't qualify etc etc.

I'd be there in a shot if I could make it possible, if only just for the experience, let alone not being last, but its simply not possible at this time....

How about instead of making assumptions and pre judging without knoweledge, some might try encouraging first.........it may just work!

Sorry Clive for going off topic

Well done VMCC for upping the anti with the upcoming Winter Series
I'm sure it will be bigger and better than ever.

[roogazza]

While I agree with some of what you chaps are saying, I don't really think bagging another event or someones choice to do it is particularly sporting.

But then, I am one of those flash in the pan, no nothing/no talent wombles you particularly like to rave on about Gaz, so my opinion's probably worth shit.

Your opinion is worth just as much as anyone elses. As far as getting anything more out of that post...... But hey, if the cap fits ???

[Chrislost]

hey Clive, awesome stuff having 2 two day events

my 2 cents worth, track 2 cos then those pesky 650's dont get away from us!! but the superbikes will prefer the A1GP track, t1...... i dont mind either way as long as we get 3 races each day!

I actually quite like the A1 track at taupo.

Turn 7 - 11 is fooking sweet!
My brakes overheat on the short one, so im a little biased...

[Clivoris]

Sorry Clive for going off topic

No probs there man. I'm enjoying the discussion, but due to a conflict of interest I can't really contribute to the debate about the pro's and con's of entering the Nationals.

[johan]

The 2009 winter series format is looking good!

I'm planning on giving it a try again!

cheers

[sinfull]

I'd be there in a shot if I could make it possible, if only just for the experience, let alone not being last, but its simply not possible at this time....

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Fuckin shame you aint got some serious backing bro !~ H is still adament adamant ada... damb sure she got you at 1.08 last week on practice day !
Be interesting to see you riding all that was available to ya !

[Tony.OK]

Fuckin shame you aint got some serious backing bro !~ H is still adament adamant ada... damb sure she got you at 1.08 last week on practice day !
Be interesting to see you riding all that was available to ya !

Cheers Bill..........


My bank acc # is 0226 77272828 77....................na its not really hehee

[Nicksta]

I actually quite like the A1 track at taupo.

Turn 7 - 11 is fooking sweet!
My brakes overheat on the short one, so im a little biased...

true... maybe a few less pies and your brakes will be better? lol

No probs there man. I'm enjoying the discussion, but due to a conflict of interest I can't really contribute to the debate about the pro's and con's of entering the Nationals.

you could PM me and i'll post it

[Toast]

true... maybe a few less pies and your brakes will be better? lol

Gee you chicks have such high expectations of us boys, the monkey is already 8% body fat! Hope his bike can handle my pies at Paeroa!

[svr]

More KB speculation huh ?

I'm not scared of feck all, but you're not necessarily talking about me anyway.

As for the hillclimb - it is a totally different buzz to a road circuit. And if cost was the issue - the hillclimb is as little as $100 for two days.

A lot who enter the hillclimb don't even race at club level, so why would they enter the Nats ? They do the hillclimb for fun guys. Don't knock something you haven't tried. Could ask are you scared ? And what's with the bullshit about a big fish in a little pond ? Jay Lawrence is current King.

But keep speculating - this is KB, full of know it alls, smart arse etc. Not that I'm necessarily talking about you. Stirrers.

Sorry Deano didn't mean to start a(nother) bagging session or knock the hillclimb (which is pretty cool).
We all have to pick and choose our events - I was just asking for little more honesty with regards to why, every year, hordes of otherwise committed (club) racers sidestep their national round.
Now going home to put a troublesome sv head back on (again) so i can hopeully ride to manfield and race on old tyres with no money etc. etc.

[slowpoke]

my vote would be for full track at Taupo, much longer 6th gear wheelies to be had

Yup, not to mention using more than one gear has a certain appeal.

I'm not a national level racer I'd have been in clubmans like a shot if they had the class at Manfield.

Me too!

Plus more corners bigger circuit real racing not a bucket track being used for big bikes.

Well said young fullah.

Sorry mate. Don't agree woth this sentiment one bit.

Is your bike eligible?

Have you completed the prerequisite number of events?

Yes to those, then you're a national level racer. The entry fee is twice most club events, yes. But quite frankly, you'll get more than double the track time you get at any club meeting. There's also no reason you can't run the weekend on one front and two rear tyres. Maybe not competitively but then, if you're racing a hornet you're not in it to win championships. No offence.

Put it this way. If you had have taken three weeks off work for a South Island holiday, paid your entry fees and the same number of tyres you used for the Actrix Winter Series, you would be running a shiny number "10" on your board for the next year. How cool would that be?

That's not even mentioning the fact you get to share the track with the Strouds (legend), Bugdens, Jones' (stinking Aussies but thoroughly good blokes), the Shirriffs (funny as fuck and the nicest bloke in NZ racing right now), Fitzgeralds (can't be too bad, don't know hime that well).

And quite simply, how fucken cool is that?

Yes mate, I'd luv to share the track with those guys....unfortunately they probably won't feel the same way about me! They've handed me my arse before and I've got no problem "letting" then doing it again, but what happens if I can't meet the qualifying time? Spend all that dosh on entry fees, chew up all those tyres (yes, even at my pace) and I don't qualify. Money gone, with no racing to show for it. It's like all foreplay and no sex....no fair!

We all have to pick and choose our events - I was just asking for little more honesty with regards to why, every year, hordes of otherwise committed (club) racers sidestep their national round.

It's got me stumped too. When you've got guys like Peter Tanner who would rather clean up Clubman's (last year) and Open Twin's (this year) than turn a wheel in a showcase event there is something wrong.

The big thing for Superbikes is that thanks to Club cross entry rules we actually have very few competing Nationally in the first place.

[koba]

Yep - was really just asking a (pointed) question.
Anyone else wonder why more vmcc members don't get out there and a have a crack at their own national round?

I'm on a streetstock.

3 rounds, all down south.

I'm working on a plan to get down there for it but it ain't easy esp with time off work for me.

May have a crack at Manfeild (my local) next year on my uncompetitive '86 400.

[Nicksta]

Gee you chicks have such high expectations of us boys, the monkey is already 8% body fat! Hope his bike can handle my pies at Paeroa!

shit, didnt know that..... always see him in leathers so cant tell
you racing the VFR?

[wharfy]

Sorry mate. Don't agree woth this sentiment one bit.

Is your bike eligible?

Yes as a Superbike !!! (100 hp ?)

Have you completed the prerequisite number of events?

Yes

Yes to those, then you're a national level racer. The entry fee is twice most club events, yes. But quite frankly, you'll get more than double the track time you get at any club meeting. There's also no reason you can't run the weekend on one front and two rear tyres. Maybe not competitively but then, if you're racing a hornet you're not in it to win championships. No offence.

No offence taken - My best lap of Manfiled is 1:19.9xx on the trusty Hornet.
I guess the first few superbikes at round five will be under 1:09
If the qualifying 115% rule was not invoked I'd be lapped every 3 laps or so and just be a moving hazard.
I don't have a problem being last at a National event. I already have the dubious distinction of coming last (being eliminated first, by my old mate Alan Thoresen ) in the modified bike class at the 2008 National drag races I was also bloody close to last at the Cliffhanger - but I wasn't a hazard to anyone (not even myself ) at those events.

Put it this way. If you had have taken three weeks off work for a South Island holiday, paid your entry fees and the same number of tyres you used for the Actrix Winter Series, you would be running a shiny number "10" on your board for the next year. How cool would that be?

Yes it would be an excellent adventure - but I'd still be a moving hazard

That's not even mentioning the fact you get to share the track with the Strouds (legend), Bugdens, Jones' (stinking Aussies but thoroughly good blokes), the Shirriffs (funny as fuck and the nicest bloke in NZ racing right now), Fitzgeralds (can't be too bad, don't know hime that well).

And quite simply, how fucken cool is that?[

Well yes that is the most compelling reason to enter it would be fun.

But I do seem to recall when the idea of Scrivy's endurance race was first floated on KB you held the position that it would be dangerous for slow riders to be "circulating" while the fast riders were "racing" and that the place to have fun was in clubmans ?

I did do the endurance race (and was last) and for a while when it was pissing down my tyres (and a crash ) made me a "moving hazard" so I came off the track until it was dry enough for me to go out again in safety and get my finishers trophy

Maybe next season ( I hope to have a 600 ) if I can get my Manfield lap times down to the mid - low teens I will give the Nationals a crack - After all one has to do these things while one is still young

I only do this because it is FUN I - at 54 I am way past taking racing (and myself) to seriously, even with a competitive bike and the best will in the world I could not be described as a National level racer.

[White trash]

But I do seem to recall when the idea of Scrivy's endurance race was first floated on KB you held the position that it would be dangerous for slow riders to be "circulating" while the fast riders were "racing" and that the place to have fun was in clubmans ?

Fair call indeed. I've re-evaluated my position and you're right. There should be no slow cunts in any race at all. This is obviously a pisstake.

I actually believe that if somone can qualify within that 115%rule, they've as much right to be on the track as the next guy.