Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

**Erelyes** · 13th October 2013, 09:59

As I understand it per pt. 56 of the Privy Council report, some experts can't even be sure it's human tissue. Could be his dinner.

No way he's getting convicted the 2nd time around. And I think he's got a better chance of compo than Bain does.

**Maha** · 13th October 2013, 10:06

Originally Posted by Erelyes

As I understand it per pt. 56 of the Privy Council report, some experts can't even be sure it's human tissue. Could be his dinner.

No way he's getting convicted the 2nd time around. And I think he's got a better chance of compo than Bain does.

That piece of evidence and the time of death (due to stomach content)... are just two out of how many exhibits (that the original jury were shown?) are questionable.
Time of death is not an exact science, it's an educated guess at best.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th October 2013, 11:08

The fat cunt did it, the police simply fucked up.

**oldrider** · 13th October 2013, 12:26

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

The fat cunt did it, the police simply fucked up.

Or maybe someone else did it for him ... maybe that's why he is so adamant (and confident) that he did not actually do it!

Unfortunately the cops never (appear to) look too far beyond the (seemingly) obvious!

**Jantar** · 13th October 2013, 12:42

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

The fat cunt did it, the police simply fucked up.

So what time did he do it?

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th October 2013, 13:15

Originally Posted by Jantar

So what time did he do it?

Certainly not when the police said he did. Maybe after he rooted the hooker in Petone. Neighbours did see lights on much later at night.

For the Lundy supporters. I'd like to hear how he went through a full tank of fuel...you know...the tank he filled in Petone the day of the murders, despite the fact that he says he only visited two clients in Wellington the next day? Please explain? Because I've driven to PN and back from Lower Hutt (basically Petone) in 1 hour and ten minutes each way. But it took me a full tank of fuel in a six cyl Commodore. Mind you...I was towing a trailer with two race bikes on it.

**Edbear** · 13th October 2013, 13:25

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Certainly not when the police said he did. Maybe after he rooted the hooker in Petone. Neighbours did see lights on much later at night.

For the Lundy supporters. I'd like to hear how he went through a full tank of fuel...you know...the tank he filled in Petone the day of the murders, despite the fact that he says he only visited two clients in Wellington the next day? Please explain? Because I've driven to PN and back from Lower Hutt (basically Petone) in 1 hour and ten minutes each way. But it took me a full tank of fuel in a six cyl Commodore. Mind you...I was towing a trailer with two race bikes on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if he got convicted again, properly this time, IMHO.

**Jantar** · 13th October 2013, 14:04

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Certainly not when the police said he did. Maybe after he rooted the hooker in Petone. Neighbours did see lights on much later at night......

I would agree. But the police have ruled out a later time of death. They have even said Lundy tampered with the computer clock to make it appear that the computer was switched of around 10:25 pm. Neighbours' evidence that the lights were switched off at around 11:00 was dimissed as being mistaken.

That is why the time of death is so important. Establish that piece of evidence correctly and Luny's alibi is either secure or completely invalidated.

**GDOBSSOR** · 13th October 2013, 14:30

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Certainly not when the police said he did. Maybe after he rooted the hooker in Petone. Neighbours did see lights on much later at night.

For the Lundy supporters. I'd like to hear how he went through a full tank of fuel...you know...the tank he filled in Petone the day of the murders, despite the fact that he says he only visited two clients in Wellington the next day? Please explain? Because I've driven to PN and back from Lower Hutt (basically Petone) in 1 hour and ten minutes each way. But it took me a full tank of fuel in a six cyl Commodore. Mind you...I was towing a trailer with two race bikes on it.

The car could have been running rich? This investigation has been an utter shambles on so many levels, so it wouldn't surprise me if the cops missed checking something like that. Also - a police reconstruction that was conducted late at night a) of course took longer than Lundy's supposed journey and b) actually used 40 litres more petrol than Mark allegedly used - there is no evidence Mark refuelled anywhere else. As for the neighbour who saw the lights on later that night... he saw the lights on at about 11pm - Lundy was with the hooker about 11.30-midnightish, so Mark wouldn't have switched on the lights.

**Robbo** · 13th October 2013, 19:17

Interesting quote from the NZ Herald

"Local real estate agent Sheridan Martin Murphy, 49, was treated as a suspect by police, one of 60 people on that list. He committed suicide at his home in Juliana Place, Palmerston North, on September 4, 2000, just days after the mother and daughter were hacked to death in their Karamea Cres home.

Sources close to the case said there were widespread rumours in Palmerston North that Murphy, a family man and racehorse-owner, was close to Christine. "

I wonder if there is anything in this or maybe Lundy paid this guy to do the deed and his conscience got the better of him.

**Hitcher** · 13th October 2013, 20:21

Originally Posted by Jantar

So what time did he do it?

Hammer time.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 14th October 2013, 06:59

Originally Posted by Jantar

I would agree. But the police have ruled out a later time of death. They have even said Lundy tampered with the computer clock to make it appear that the computer was switched of around 10:25 pm. Neighbours' evidence that the lights were switched off at around 11:00 was dimissed as being mistaken.

That is why the time of death is so important. Establish that piece of evidence correctly and Luny's alibi is either secure or completely invalidated.

Yeah sounds like they got the time of death wrong as well. Total cluster fuck of a case.

**BuzzardNZ** · 14th October 2013, 07:11

Originally Posted by Edbear

I wouldn't be surprised if he got convicted again, properly this time, IMHO.

Here's hoping.

**korimako1** · 14th October 2013, 07:48

Originally Posted by Robbo

Interesting quote from the NZ Herald

"Local real estate agent Sheridan Martin Murphy, 49, was treated as a suspect by police, one of 60 people on that list. He committed suicide at his home in Juliana Place, Palmerston North, on September 4, 2000, just days after the mother and daughter were hacked to death in their Karamea Cres home.

Sources close to the case said there were widespread rumours in Palmerston North that Murphy, a family man and racehorse-owner, was close to Christine. "

This is a total nonsense. He may have been on the list because of the timing of his death only. It is a vicious rumour started early in the investigation by probably the police, Christine didnt even know him, at was all designed to pressure and hurt people close to the Murphys, Lundys and Weggerys to illict information and it failed, except the hurt part, and now they are doing it again.