Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

[Edbear]

That would be fairly typical of the Herald, they never let the truth stand in the way of a good story or speculation.

You mean like media in general..?

[Swoop]

The N&S article mentioned the time of the computer clock and its being "tampered with". The comment was that whoever did this (if anyone actually did) would need to know a little bit about computers to adjust the time in the manner described. A virus would have done this "easily".

Still too much uncertainty around this case.

... if you are murdered the most likely person to have done it is your significant other, or a family member, Random stranger ones are almost unheard of.

...Watson...

I presume Watson is falling into the "random murderer, wandering around bumping people off" category?

[Winston001]

Yeah sounds like they got the time of death wrong as well. Total cluster fuck of a case.

If - and it is still questionable - but if the time of death evidence is unreliable that is not the fault of the police. They correctly relied upon the pathologist. Another pathologist (a professor) later says the examining pathologist was wrong.

We will just have to wait and see at the new trial.

This is a fresh start for the prosecution and they can adduce new evidence and a new case theory.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If - and it is still questionable - but if the time of death evidence is unreliable that is not the fault of the police. They correctly relied upon the pathologist. Another pathologist (a professor) later says the examining pathologist was wrong.

We will just have to wait and see at the new trial.

This is a fresh start for the prosecution and they can adduce new evidence and a new case theory.

I hear ya. But the police tried to convince the jury Lundy drove to PN and back AND slaughtered his wife/child in three hours during rush hour to fit the case. That's a fuckup and not possible. So they should've questioned the pathologist harder, or sought out another expert regarding the time of death.

[Winston001]

Can a new prosecution proceed on the theory that Lundy finished with the prostitute at 11:30pm and then drove to Palmerston North? That gives him plenty of time.

[Banditbandit]

Sure they can .. they can now make up any new story they like ... but they will still need some evidence to support whatever story they make up ...

[avgas]

I had no idea he was pregnant.

Now I feel bad for calling him fat.

[Swoop]

I had no idea he was pregnant.

Now I feel bad for calling him fat.

It is just "big bones".


















* Normally KFC drumsticks' swimming in gravy... with all the extra trimmings.

[oldrider]

A harmless fat chick and an innocent little girl were chopped up with an axe by "somebody" .. lets not forget about them! . Or the five shot in Dunedin!

[avgas]

A harmless fat chick and an innocent little girl were chopped up with an axe by "somebody" .. lets not forget about them! . Or the five shot in Dunedin!

How the fuck did Lundy shoot 5 people in Dunedin?

[oneofsix]

A harmless fat chick and an innocent little girl were chopped up with an axe by "somebody" .. lets not forget about them! . Or the five shot in Dunedin!

Not to mention a farmer and his wife shot and the baby left in the cot, although the baby survived (fed by parties unknown) and requires answers, and then there is the farmer in Feilding. Anyone remember Jennifer Beard, at least no one has been falsely convicted for that one .

[oldrider]

Not to mention a farmer and his wife shot and the baby left in the cot, although the baby survived (fed by parties unknown) and requires answers, and then there is the farmer in Feilding. Anyone remember Jennifer Beard, at least no one has been falsely convicted for that one .

True! The dead victims don't seem to rate as important in this fucking country any more!

[Paul in NZ]

True! The dead victims don't seem to rate as important in this fucking country any more!

I don't beleive that - its just that some crimes are bloody hard to prove...

[Murray]

Because I've driven to PN and back from Lower Hutt (basically Petone) in 1 hour and ten minutes each way. .I was towing a trailer with two race bikes on it.

Petone - Palmerston North 142 km - 1 hour 10 minutes - AVERAGE speed 121 kms per hour

Your dreaming!!! What speed were you doing through Otaki, Waikanae, Paraparumu, Paekok, Plimmerton?? Or did you take a faster route (while towing your trailor and bikes)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Petone - Palmerston North 142 km - 1 hour 10 minutes - AVERAGE speed 121 kms per hour

Your dreaming!!! What speed were you doing through Otaki, Waikanae, Paraparumu, Paekok, Plimmerton?? Or did you take a faster route (while towing your trailor and bikes)

Lower Hutt actually (as mentioned). Had to hit speeds of around 180 kph quite often...mostly around 160kph on the open road. Did mostly 80-120 kph everywhere. Was done at around 6.30am Sunday morning, and yes I had someone else with me. But you're telling the stories eh! Funnily enough I've had people say I'm dreaming to say I've done min 19 laps round Manfield on an 883 Harley, or min 16's on a 250 proddie bike back in 1991 on street legal (as in no slicks) tyres. Same thing though. They weren't actually there. Cause if you were...you'd know it all to be true.