Mark Lundy - miscarriage of justice?

[jasonu]

However, they are using the brain and spinal cord material in the current trial ... It's hard to get passed. There's no way it could have got on the shirt unless the shirt was there .. and if the shirt was there then there's a very high chance that Mark Lundy was there too.

From what I have just read (this entire thread and the N&S article all in one sitting) the tissue issue is a no go. The way it was incorrectly stored for more than 50 days and washed with water twice then improperly transported to Texas for testing that has since been poopooed by several scientists and scientific organizations with way more feathers than the guy that actually did the tests means it shouldn't be too hard for the defense to discredit the tissue samples.

[Edbear]

So the brother had DNA of both the wife and the daughter under his fingernails - blood in his car boot - on a towel - and a bit of previous on child sex?

Then the police focused on Lundy? --------------------------------------- yes - that makes a lot of sense!

That could be explained by the fact that he found them and may have touched them to see if they were alive. He might have turned them over or something. Wiped his hands afterward. Whatever the case it's going to grip the country again.

[oldrider]

Quote from Bain thread:

hey happy to talk on that thread

Haven't got anything to say about it but have noticed that it seems to have gone quiet in the MSM of late!

[korimako1]

Quote from Bain thread:

Haven't got anything to say about it but have noticed that it seems to have gone quiet in the MSM of late!

yes, could it be that everyone is rethinking there position!!!!! Its a retrial, but the crown have changed from their original position, gone is the amazing drive, gone is the first time of death, gone is the eyewitness who turned off her psychic powers, but they have kept the hooker, and the stupid business decisions. smoke and mirror machine about the insurance. Dodgy fuel consumption.
I see the Police on the news evading questions from the defence with the old "I cant recall", I wonder how many times we will hear that before this trial is over. Probably the most high profile case they have or will ever work on, and now they have memory lapses. Bet they can remember around the BBQ with their Police mates.
Its bloody disgusting, if we did that it would be contempt of court or attempting to pervert the course of justice. They lie by omission.
Oh and they cocked up the original inquiry didn't they, I know a lot about this case and can answer most questions about it, but a suspect who had blood on a towel in his bathroom, identified as the victims, blood in the boot of his car, some admissions by his family as to some previous dodgy stuff, physical injuries on him, that was new to me, and they look the other way, brilliant police work, not.
Lundys car scoured and nothing but a bracelet no one can identify, except lundy saying it was probably in a handful of jewellery Christine grabbed 2 weeks earlier. a reasonable answer I would have thought. But not in original photos of car then found,removed and placed back, shades of some .22 cartridges here methinks.

It will be interesting next week, more Police with dodgy memories I would think.

[oldrider]

Just watching the media reporting TV papers etc the investigation incompetence level (if completely true) is shocking!

A bit like those silly TV programs on MAF border control!

Watching them - there were always going to be infestations like we are experiencing in Auckland right now FFS!

[korimako1]

Just watching the media reporting TV papers etc the investigation incompetence level (if completely true) is shocking!

A bit like those silly TV programs on MAF border control!

Watching them - there were always going to be infestations like we are experiencing in Auckland right now FFS!

Yes, you are correct, the incompetence level you are seeing reported is just the tip of the iceberg. there is plenty more to come. lots of coppers with early onset Alzheimer's.
they must have a manual (yellow and black cover) how to investigate a murder for dummies that they probably haven't read because they keep making the same mistakes. the coppers got hammered for not wearing protective clothing and last night on TV, the murder shooting in Hamilton, yes wearing protective gear but not correctly, hair exposed no safety glasses and no booties. they are not very quick on the uptake are they. is it arrogance or what?

Study Bain, Barlow, Ellis, Tamahere, Watson, Lundy and of course Thomas and you see a recurring theme of incompetence.
And that's not even mentioning all the police who have been charged with various serious crimes over the last few years. how can the public have confidence in a Police force in turmoil. they are more interested in fining you for 4 kms over the speed limit.
They need to get their own house in order.

sorry about the rant, but I get furious, we are supposed to be able to trust a Policeman to tell the truth and do the right thing, hasn't been happening though has it.

[FJRider]

Just watching the media reporting TV papers etc the investigation incompetence level (if completely true) is shocking!

A bit like those silly TV programs on MAF border control!

Watching them - there were always going to be infestations like we are experiencing in Auckland right now FFS!

Reality TV is great ... eh .. !!! and ... unless YOU are in Auckland ... "We" won't be experiencing it ...



The good news is ... it's an Auckland problem. And an Auckland economy that may suffer.

With the perceived issue Aussie has with OUR apple imports ... I'm still surprise we allow ANY Aussie fruit imports ...

[oldrider]

Reality TV is great ... eh .. !!! and ... unless YOU are in Auckland ... "We" won't be experiencing it ...



The good news is ... it's an Auckland problem. And an Auckland economy that may suffer.

With the perceived issue Aussie has with OUR apple imports ... I'm still surprise we allow ANY Aussie fruit imports ...

Unfortunately Auckland is us like it or not! - Agree with you entirely on the Aussie thing!

[Hitcher]

Prediction: Lundy will walk free. The Police have nothing that proves his guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

I'm not saying he's innocent.

Us taxpayers better start getting our heads around what his compensation will be. I suspect a lot more than a total loss life insurance claim on his missus.

[pete376403]

If Lundy gets compensation how could they continue to deny Bain? Or will the minister of justice continue to have judicial reviews until they get the result they want?

[Crasherfromwayback]

. I suspect a lot more than a total loss life insurance claim on his missus.

Which I guess they'll have to pay out too?

[oldrider]

Which I guess they'll have to pay out too?

The insurance company will be well protected by small print or even new print if it suits them!

Lets not forget or lose sight of the fact that this was an horrific event for an innocent mother and an even more innocent little girl!

I certainly hope the perpetrator is clearly identified and punished - if ever a fitting punishment could be contrived!

Same with Bain case - five murdered people seem to be forgotten - it would be nice to see justice done in the end for them too!

[Oscar]

The insurance company will be well protected by small print or even new print if it suits them!

So you're an expert in this area?
Or is this another one of your half baked opinions?

As a matter of fact, a life insurance contract is one of the simplest legal contracts out there.
If the insurer declined on the basis of the conviction, and that conviction is overturned, I can't see how they could avoid paying.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If the insurer declined on the basis of the conviction, and that conviction is overturned, I can't see how they could avoid paying.

That's what I would've thought.

[Oscar]

That's what I would've thought.

That's coz you're a really clever bastid...



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