Obama backs bikes

**Okey Dokey** · 20th February 2009, 20:39

Originally Posted by Sollyboy

maybe not such a good idea in nz to promote more motorbike use as unlike the usa we have acc and no doubt with all the retard commuters falling off our levy will triple

Oh, c'mon... some folk will find a turd in a scoop of ice cream!!!

**twotyred** · 20th February 2009, 21:03

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

Oh, c'mon... some folk will find a turd in a scoop of ice cream!!!

I think it's a valid comment as TPTB have already used the excuse of increased MC use due to higher fuel costs etc,to validate their perceived need for compulsary flouro jackets and daytime headlights... I'm sure that is only the thin edge of the wedge when it comes to their real plans for bikes...

**Okey Dokey** · 20th February 2009, 21:13

So a tax incentive to buy bikes becomes the thin end of the wedge? This does not seem logical to me...

Here we have a major political figure endorsing the purchase/use of bikes...what do you find sinister in that? I thought it was the validation of legitimacy many bikers longed for?

The possibility that the ACC poll recently conducted and referred to in another kb thread- now there I can see the potential for misuse.

**McJim** · 20th February 2009, 21:22

Unfortunately Kiwi politics and local philosophy promotes car use to the exclusion of all else.

In other countries cars are relegated to the position they deserve as inefficient over consumers of resources and polluters of the environment. In most European countries any incident involving a car and pedestrian or car and bicycle the car is held responsible. NZ is so arrogantly pro car that this is almost never the case (Ute driver tries to assassinate entire peleton on Coro by being fuckwit for example - NO CHARGES LAID! WTF?).

What chance have motorcycles got in the face of such stupid and entrenched bias and stupidity?

In other words - don't hold your breath.

**applewins** · 21st February 2009, 01:55

Well I just downloaded the entire bailout package in PDF and searched for the reference to the Motorcycle tax credits. No reference that I could find in the 647 pages of money spent that the tax payers don't have. Please let me know specifically where this credit is located. VISIONARY?

Suzuki GSX650F in COLD Michigan.
http://www.gsx650f.biz

**Goblin** · 21st February 2009, 07:00

Originally Posted by Swoop

Bugger.

If you ride an MV, do you have to wear tassels now???

No, but think of the chrome you could add.

**Okey Dokey** · 21st February 2009, 08:02

Originally Posted by applewins

Michigan.
http://www.gsx650f.biz

GO BLUE!

(10 char)

**Fudmucker** · 21st February 2009, 13:30

Pardon a foreigner's ignorance - what's acc?

**slofox** · 21st February 2009, 13:36

Originally Posted by Sparrowhawk

Finally, a politico using his brain!

A politico WITH a brain is a wonder in itself...

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

Oh, c'mon... some folk will find a turd in a scoop of ice cream!!!

And they are the lucky ones...

**Virago** · 21st February 2009, 13:48

Originally Posted by Fudmucker

Pardon a foreigner's ignorance - what's acc?

Count yourself lucky that you don't know.

ACC is Accident Compensation Corporation. It is a NZ government run "insurance" scheme for accident cover. All employees pay a levy as part of their tax, as do employers. Most of the annual registration fee for a motorcycle is ACC levy.

Alas, it is not the social dream that it sounds. It removes the right to sue a guilty party following an accident, as the ACC is there to cover your losses.

Unfortunately, ACC will only cover a portion of your losses, and long term or permanent injuries will only attract minimal financial support. Genuine accident victims are often treated like criminals, by a faceless bureaucratic nightmare...

**Bonez** · 22nd February 2009, 10:32

Originally Posted by Virago

Count yourself lucky that you don't know.

ACC is Accident Compensation Corporation. It is a NZ government run "insurance" scheme for accident cover. All employees pay a levy as part of their tax, as do employers. Most of the annual registration fee for a motorcycle is ACC levy.

Alas, it is not the social dream that it sounds. It removes the right to sue a guilty party following an accident, as the ACC is there to cover your losses.

Unfortunately, ACC will only cover a portion of your losses, and long term or permanent injuries will only attract minimal financial support. Genuine accident victims are often treated like criminals, by a faceless bureaucratic nightmare...

Lets not forget the tards that take the scheme for a ride..............Live off it but are still quite capable having full time jobs.

**Sollyboy** · 23rd February 2009, 18:22

Originally Posted by Virago

Genuine accident victims are often treated like criminals, by a faceless bureaucratic nightmare...

and then genuine criminals in prison are given good compensation for falling out their bunk bed in or if lacerate they nut sack climbing over razor wire , what a fantastico systems ,WTF

**Fudmucker** · 24th February 2009, 06:20

Sounds something similar to our Road Accident Fund, funded by a fuel levy. It is supposed to cover the costs of anyone involved in an accident involving a vehicle.

Practically speaking, it is so 'administratively challenged' that they are passing new rules to limit the amount of damages anyone can receive and a 'no blame' policy that prevents persons who receive RAF benefits from suing the other party (also covered by them).