Hyosung fails again

[Bonez]

Yeah too right passing at speed on the Hyo can be along drawn out episode, that's the downside of the 250 power.

Putting things in persrective those Hyo 250s have more oomph then my 400 single.

[obxbiker]

Take a guess at how many Chinese parts are being fitted to Italian bikes.
You do realise that the new BMW 450 enduro engine is completely made by Kymco out of Korea?
Chinese electronics are popping up on Suzi's Honda's, Harleys, and yes, even Ducati's. Best you order your grasshopper soup recipe now.

Just a small correction, Kymco is NOT Korean, its Taiwanese. Which is NOT ''Chinese''.

Not only do they make the BMW 450 engine but they also make hundreds of parts for dozens of other manufacturers.

Know you motorcycle history,this is a Global economy.All manufacturers historically have make 'start-up' company's to out source for cheaper labor, it was done in the past (Hyosung, Kymco initially majority controlled by Suzy & Honda) and is now being done even more by all of them. Check the presence of all the company's who right now have manufacturing plants in other countries. (China, Vietnam,India, etc... too many to list) Some day they to will control the plants in there own countries under who knows what name and at that point their will still be some Bikerslut/Dealerslut who whines all the time like a baby cuz its easier then taking responsibility thenselves which in most cases (like all brands) is their own fault.

Almost all problems for established bike companies can be attributed to the owner and in many, many cases the ''Dealiar'' who sold it and has no idea how to fix them.Strange how when a ''my bike whiner'' posts they always say the dealiar says so too... wonder why....DUH

Mainland China right now is like Korea and Taiwan was 20-30 years ago, and like the ''Big Jap Four' was 40 years ago.

[GrayWolf]

nah hand the mechanic fix everything, cost alot too then it decided to do that. Its not the only problem ive had with the lemon which is why i hav no compliments for them especially after hearing all the other bad shit about them... end of the day its korean and you cant expect much compared to the japs, as bad as a fukn harley and just as underpowered

Tell you what, go ride an RD250 air cooled Yamaha. Underpowered? ya bloody Hyo is as quick on top speed, and the RD was the dogs bollox in it's day. Handling and brakes? FFS grow up, the modern brake systems are far superior to then and well if you want to discuss dodgy handling characteristics?? Ask those of us who owned RD's etc about the plastic YES, PLASTIC swinging arm bushes on RD's and early ones had no grease nipples. And the 45 watt headlight (non halogen), and the shitty shocks, forks and tyres of the day.
If you want a reminder of how badly the Japanese can screw it up?? Google the Yamaha TX750, the 500 twin (4 valve) of the day. Read up on the handling of the Kwacka 500 & 750 triples, the swinging arm 'flex' on early Z900's. Suzuki GT250 (ram air) handling, GT 750's lovely motor, drinks petrol like a drunken sailor, chews drive chains. All manufacturers make an occasional 'dog' sometimes it is a complete model range (TX750).
The Japanese made mistakes in the early mass market years, they have 30+ years of massive worldwide sales and model development to fall back on. Hyo is a relative 'newcomer' They arent a bad wee bike!

[rphenix]

Quality control? Hyosung fails?

Ya what?

You're bitching because you crashed your bike and it's not right?

Did you hit your head when you crashed or something?

*sigh*

+1! it sounds like the bike wasnt repaired right...

[Fub@r]

So in all you have had 2 crashes and one near death experience on this bike so far?

You are riding a bike built for portion of the market. Eg nice looking 250 learner bike built on a budget. Yet you ride it like its some high performance top of the line track bike and then you wonder why things wear out or start to break?

I have used my Hyo everday since I bought it, its a 2006 model approaching 30,000km. Besides having the clutch cable snap twice I have had no problems. The CDI unit flat spot was easily fixed with a snip.

Reading through your post history you will not find me racing towards a T intersection at over 160kph and expect my Hyosung to stop on a dime, then when something goes wrong its the bikes fault and you are blameless?

As for your current problems........when you were going off at the mechanic about Hyosungs was he laughing at what you were saying or was he laughing at you because he had done a half arse repair job and you weren't blaming him?

If you want to be hooning around at 160kph + buy a bike designed for that purpose not an entry level bike. I have had my 6F for over a year, the Hyo serves me well for what I want from it and I'm in no rush to get rid of it

[davebullet]

Plus, weren't Hyosung responsible for manufacture of the SV650 engines for Suzuki?

good god! Are you saying my SV650 is a Hyosung!

[riffer]

good god! Are you saying my SV650 is a Hyosung!

Found some info:

In 1978 Hyosung Motors and Machinery, Ltd., was established in Korea for the purpose of designing and manufacturing motorcycles for the Asian market, and in 1979 Hyosung established a Technology Cooperation Agreement with Suzuki Motors of Japan. Since then Hyosung has been building its own brand of motorcycles primarily for various Asian markets, as well as building components, sub-assemblies and motorcycles for Suzuki. Hyosung later established a foothold in Europe, and soon after came a dual overhead cam 125cc motor for the Asian market, later followed by the emergence of a range of 250cc motorcycles exported throughout Asia and Europe. In 2004 an all-new Hyosung 650cc v-twin was introduced, which became the basis for four motorcycle models ranging from a cruiser to a sport bike. In 2005 Hyosung expanded its European operations, and established an American distribution network via an agreement with UM, a South American vehicle distributor with markets in both North and South America. In 2007 Hyosung's motorcycles and machinery divisions went their own separate ways, and the motorcycle division became S&T Motors, Ltd. Their web site can be found at: http://www.hisntmotors.com/abroad/index.asp and UM's web site is located at: http://www.umamerica.com/site/usa/index.html

Because of the Suzuki Technology Exchange Agreement, and the fact that Hyosung has built SV650's for Suzuki under license, and due to the lack of good reliable information on the street about the GT650R, many people automatically make the assumption that the GT650R is nothing more than a Korean copy of the SV650. That is simply not true. The SV650 is a competitor to the Comet, not a sibling.

When designing the GT650R Hyosung chose a few of the same sub-supplier parts as Suzuki did for the SV650. For example the GT650R uses the same carburetor (or throttle body in the case of EFI) mounting bracket as the SV650. On the 2008 Hyosung, the electronic fuel injection unit is the same Mitsubishi unit as on the SV650 (more on that later.) There are other bits and pieces from other parts suppliers that are the same on both bikes, but that is no different than if Honda and Yamaha bought components from the same supplier. Upon any sort of casual or close inspection it becomes very obvious the GT650R is definitely not a SV650 copy.

The GT650R motor is an original Hyosung-designed and Hyosung-built motor. Both motorcycles have 90-degree V-Twins, but that is where the similarity stops. The SV650 has a 645cc, 70 HP motor, and the GT650R has a 647cc motor with 80 HP. The internal arrangements of the motors are completely different. SV650 has a spin on oil filter on the front of the motor, the GT650R has BOTH an internal oil filter under a cover on the right side of the motor, and an oil strainer on the bottom of the motor. On the right side of the Hyosung motor where the oil filter resides is where the water pump resides on the Suzuki. Not the same motor. Not a copy. Not even close.
The frames on the two bikes are completely different. The newest SV650 has a Japanese sport bike style box aluminum frame where the GT650R has an oval tube frame visually similar to the Triumph Speed Triple. Even the older SV650 frame, which did have a tubular section, is a different shape and is not the same frame as the Hyosung. The swingarms are completely different. The motorcycle is not a copy of anything, it is unique and original in its own right.

[DarkLord]

To think that people were actually feeling sorry for this guy when he came off and was whining on here about only wanting his girlfriend back, etc. If you ask me, pal, you got exactly what you deserved, and your mindset here proves this.

How the fuck is it the bikes fault? The only reason the bike is like it is, is because YOU crashed it. If YOU didn't crash it, perhaps it wouldn't be in as bad shape as it is? I suppose it's the bikes fault that you crashed as well? How is it Hyosungs fault? Cos the bike doesn't run the same? Of course it's not going to be the same. It's been CRASHED. By YOU.

You know, there is a little saying I have, and it goes like this - what you have in your heart will be revealed by what you have in your life. The fact that you have had all this happen to you is a pretty clear indication to me of what is going on in your heart. Nothing is ever your fault, is it? It's the bikes fault for being fucked because you crashed it. It's your girlfriends fault for being a bitch. True, she may well have been, but perhaps YOU drove her away?!? With attitudes like that?

You'll probably tell me I'm being harsh. And maybe I am. But my point is, through all you have been through, be it self imposed or whatever, you have been presented with a MASSIVE learning experience that you could really use to make yourself a better person and a better rider. If you don't learn anything from it, then it is worth nothing and all completely wasted. Seeing stupid-ass threads like this, blaming the bike for your mistakes is a pretty clear indication you are not learning from your experiences. What happens if you get this CBR600 you speak of, and bin that as well and then it doesn't work properly afterwards? I suppose that is going to be the bikes fault too?

My point is, before you go about blaming anyone (or anything) else, take a look in the mirror. A real long, hard look and see what part of the responsibility is YOURS first.

[RocKai]

Exactly my point dark man

[Rev DJ]

maybe we should rename this thread... Good Hyosung - questionable Mechanic??

Love my bike BTW - never missed a beat... DJ

[Number 5]

maybe we should rename this thread... Good Hyosung - questionable Mechanic??

Love my bike BTW - never missed a beat... DJ

Good Hyo, good Honda, good Yam, etc,etc, its the GOOD OWNER that really counts.

Getting regular servicing is a good start, but being a motorcyclist and a good owner is more than that, its the weekly maintenance that counts (check your owners manual for weekly/monthly checks).

It starts with nothing more than cleaning the bike, checking oil and coolant levels,operation of controls, tyre pressures, etc.

As well as keeping the bike in good condition, it keeps the rider safe, and should prevent finding out the hard way that you have no brakes at 160k.

[rphenix]

Good Hyo, good Honda, good Yam, etc,etc, its the GOOD OWNER that really counts.

Getting regular servicing is a good start, but being a motorcyclist and a good owner is more than that, its the weekly maintenance that counts (check your owners manual for weekly/monthly checks).

It starts with nothing more than cleaning the bike, checking oil and coolant levels,operation of controls, tyre pressures, etc.

As well as keeping the bike in good condition, it keeps the rider safe, and should prevent finding out the hard way that you have no brakes at 160k.

Couldnt have put it better myself.

[woodhillkamikaze]

Maybe he should learn to ride before doing '160' (Dubious) It's obviously his fault since he admitted being a regular crasher... I wonder what other bikes have had the unfortunate experience of being ridden by this muppet! Where'd he get a licence from?? Sure Hyosungs aren't a ZXR or CBR but hey they look good and are at least a full sized bike. I owned a ZXR before which was prettty damn quick. The Hyosung is nothing compared to the ZXR for speed but the the Hyosung is a hell of a lot more comfortable and relaxing. (I rode one from Welly to Aucks) Maybe Donut should buy a 50cc scooter... He won't have any problems then I'm sure (oh and put some training wheels on it to lol)

are you blind or just stupid?? i have already said i have had alot of problems before the bike got stacked, its been a lemon from day 1, first time i did the loop one of my front calipers fell off, another time the front brake leaver clicked for 1 to 6 and went against the bars, at 160 into a corner and no front brakes it was a bit scarey. i have had the rear master cylinder seize on me 3 times now because the rubber boot on it is useless it just comes down to personal experience and mine is bad so i cant say much good about them and although they may not all b like that its set my opinion on them. its funny how you never hear anything good about them untill you jump on kiwibiker and everyone gets all up'y because you dont like them yet if i ask anyone in person they cant stop saying how shit they are. even the dealer i bought it from says there crap and that they are always having problems with them ...... i keep it well maintained especially after owning 2 bang motor cross bikes i know the importance of it all and am always giving the bike a good once over

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Hyosung fails again
finally got my hyoslut running after the last accident XD took it out last night for a short blat and man is it fucked, all the fairing brackets are bent so just riding it has made it shatter the fairing, then wen i was going round a corner in 3rd and went to shift up it went into what i thought was a false neutral, so i tryed to kick it down 2 and it still seemed like it was in neutral reving its ass off. then i noticed my backwheel was coming out in a bad way (oh shit not again, same corner i broke my back on) so i pulled over and had a look at the bike and all i saw was this mass patch of oil, the bolt of the front sprocket had come off and the seals around it r fukd covered everything in oil, not sure if the gearbox has shit itself yet soon to find out tho

but at the end of the day its a hyoslut and what can you expect wont b long now and ill have my cbr600 09 so i might aswell run the hyosluts face into the road

How is you crashing it and the complaining after the crash that bits are broken and not straight... how is that Hyosungs fault?

and yes Hyosung have been making the SV650 motor for years... the Hyosung GT650 motor is based on that design...

[skidMark]

I have no friends, can i pay any of you $1 to give me a hug?

srsly.