Selfishness before integrity (another rant)

[Nasty]

Flip side of this whole coin is those that have self imposed brokeness. To build or maintain a business today means living on the bones of your ass.
Every spare penny and bit of energy MUST go into the business.
You have to sacrefice your sport and your freetime.

That in itself is inherently different to what this thread is about .. which is spending what you don't have to maintain something that you can't afford ...

Not exactly running a business kinda stuff I would have thought ... as in running a business quite often it is run on the skeletons in order to get through the first couple of years in order to bring success/or to suceed.

[Highlander]

Yea well I guess you sacrefice lifestyle if you wanna succede

A lifestyle, is different to ... A life.

If you have a life...you have suceeded.

I figure Lifestyle is the combination of money coming in and time off to enjoy it. There are people at both ends of the scale.

That in itself is inherently different to what this thread is about .. which is spending what you don't have to maintain something that you can't afford ...

Unless it is someone elses money you a spending while using legal(?) loopholes to keep it from biting you while you take others to the cleaners (or a bridge to jump off....)

[puddytat]

The world is full of these farking blowhards & when they do go under its usually because of someone or something else thats caused it,& not themselves....Yeah right!!
Theyre often the folk who have the best of everything including bikes & talk themselves up all the time, but when you get out on yer ole shitta & leave 'em for dead then they'll always have an excuse to explain why....

[klingon]

...You know what also fucks me off. The people who moan and complain about being broke to those that really are broke...

I have a friend who is exactly like this! I find it very, very funny to hear him constantly telling us how broke he is when

• He goes out for meals several times a week.
• He took his family camping this summer, and when it started raining their tent leaked so he just sent his wife into town to buy a new tent ($800).
• He is always buying new gadgets (recently new home theatre including flat screen TV)

The best bit about this is he keeps telling us how we should live our lives!

• "Why do you still have that old TV? The plasma ones are so much better!"
• "Why don't you have Sky? There are always good movies on."
• "Why do you live way out in that cheap suburb? There are plenty of houses in my suburb with low rent. I could probably find you something for $500 per week."
• "Why do you keep getting your old bike fixed? You should buy a nice new one instead."

But please note I did say he's my friend, and he really is. He has some very good qualities. He just has a completely different perspective than me on what it means to be rich or poor. As long as I can keep laughing at him and not get sucked into his belief system, I will stay happy with my life.

[pete376403]

Flip side of this whole coin is those that have self imposed brokeness. To build or maintain a business today means living on the bones of your ass.
Every spare penny and bit of energy MUST go into the business.
You have to sacrefice your sport and your freetime.

Yeah, like that poor bastard Bongard (CEO of F&P) He's taken a 7.5% pay cut, expect to see him down at the food bank now his pay is down to a mere $1,056,898. The sacrifices some guys make, eh?

[Swoop]

When you're down to your last million... life can be rough. You might have to rent out one of the batches... or just not get the later model BM'... this year...

Having spent part of the day enjoying the hospitality of the largest superyacht moored in the viaduct harbour, a mere million is simply loose change to some folks.
How people handle their money is their business.
If they delude themselves, the repo-man will give them a wake up call.

[Maki]

It's all relative. This thread proves that rich or poor is all a matter of perception.

To me being rich is having a satisfying job and being satisfied with the material goods I have.

I have some advice to parents. Teach your children the value of money the easy way. Make them work for the things they want so they will appreciate value. Reward saving and show them the consequences of irresponsible spending. This lesson can be learned cheaply as a child but if you have to learn this as an adult it may cost you very dearly indeed.

This so called recession we are going through is simply a return to reality. People spent money they did not have and now the credit is drying up there is a so called recession.

[ynot slow]

Money or no money,when you're dead you can't enjoy the toys,and a few guys in here have died eh.Enjoy life whilst you can.

I know a lawyer who managed to lose a few million $ from investors,my uncle had money invested with this firm,not much but had done so for 20yrs or so,he lost as he said enough to go to Aussie to see his kids 10-12 times($20-25000)not a lot (yeah right),but I know a guy who lost 200-300grand.Best part is the partners of which it was a family firm,one scarpered to Taupo immediately,the other brother stayed put,but still in their new home,racing horses out of a Stratford stable.Amazing thing having all assets in trusts etc.