Selfishness before integrity (another rant)

**firecracker** · 20th February 2009, 22:24

But yes it pisses you off that they get away with it..

Ah but you see, there really is no such thing as a free lunch.

Natural justice has a handy little thing called KARMA!

And for those of us with self respect and a social conscience, well, we get to sleep at night without the burden justifying ourselves to others.

**FJRider** · 20th February 2009, 22:31

Originally Posted by Edbear

Mmmmmm! Is "civilised society" an oxymoron?

Bordering on ... Contradiction in terms...

**Mikkel** · 20th February 2009, 22:37

I think the root of this is to be found in the fact that we have all become so independent of eachother that we no longer think that we need other people to depend upon in order to live our lives the way we want to. It is sad indeed. Hopefully we'll get past this phase and come out better for it someday.

**BiK3RChiK** · 21st February 2009, 00:41

I thought selfishness and greed was the beginning of the end for every ancient World Power and civilisation that doesn't exist today.

I think this attitude is very short-sighted. Hiding ones' head in the sand doesn't change the reality.

**Highlander** · 22nd February 2009, 10:04

I think there are a couple of traps that a lot of people appear to have fallen into lead to this...

One is loss of definition between needs and wants, this has caused a lot of people to fall into another that is a biggy in our society....

Spending money they don't have, buying stuff they don't want to impress people they don't like.

**Number One** · 22nd February 2009, 10:24

Originally Posted by Highlander

I think there are a couple of traps that a lot of people appear to have fallen into lead to this...

One is loss of definition between needs and wants, this has caused a lot of people to fall into another that is a biggy in our society....

Spending money they don't have, buying stuff they don't want to impress people they don't like.

GOod post. Agree completely.

You know what also fucks me off. The people who moan and complain about being broke to those that really are broke.

I won't mention any current examples I know of.

When I was a youngun my mum and dad split up and mum and I were living on less than 30K a year and using coupons to do our groceries. No niceties in our trolley everything was budget and no frills brand and we always used to run into this woman who always wanted to tell us the sob story about how broke her and her rich husband were. You know the kind new car every year, latest stereo and entertainment equipment blah blah blah. Anyway I'd be standing there listening to her 'tale of woe' meanwhile the comparisons between our trolleys were laughable. Ours only as full as the budget would stretch for that week - every meal meticulously planned to enable best use of the money we had. No convenience food or sweets/treats. Her trolley always overflowing always contained bottles of coke, cakes of camembert and other fine cheeses, wines and chippies and treats and other goodies. Always wanted to slap the smug bitch...broke? MY ARSE! Go tell someone who actually can sympathise with your 'level' of brokeness

**FJRider** · 22nd February 2009, 10:35

When you're down to your last million... life can be rough. You might have to rent out one of the batches... or just not get the later model BM'... this year...

**Number One** · 22nd February 2009, 10:36

Originally Posted by FJRider

When you're down to your last million... life can be rough. You might have to rent out one of the batches... or just not get the later model BM'... this year...

Heartbreaking eh..those poor poor rich people

**FJRider** · 22nd February 2009, 10:40

Originally Posted by Highlander

I think there are a couple of traps that a lot of people appear to have fallen into lead to this...

One is loss of definition between needs and wants, this has caused a lot of people to fall into another that is a biggy in our society....

Spending money they don't have, buying stuff they don't want to impress people they don't like.

If you always had the frills, you always want the frills. The fact you can't afford the frills does not feature.
We all want to be thought to be doing better than we actually are.... human nature.

**FJRider** · 22nd February 2009, 10:41

Originally Posted by Number One

Heartbreaking eh..those poor poor rich people

You (almost) feel sorry for them...naaaah..

**FROSTY:Me** · 22nd February 2009, 10:45

Flip side of this whole coin is those that have self imposed brokeness. To build or maintain a business today means living on the bones of your ass.
Every spare penny and bit of energy MUST go into the business.
You have to sacrefice your sport and your freetime.

**FJRider** · 22nd February 2009, 10:58

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Flip side of this whole coin is those that have self imposed brokeness. To build or maintain a business today means living on the bones of your ass.
Every spare penny and bit of energy MUST go into the business.
You have to sacrefice your sport and your freetime.

Do you have a business to make a living....and a life. OR... have a business... and NO life...? Is THAT living... ???

**FJRider** · 22nd February 2009, 11:06

Greed plays a part in motorcyclist's lives too. A close personal friend is looking for a learners bike. The prices asked are high. The same bikes had the same price a year ago. 10-20,000 km's ago... but everybody wants the same money THEY paid. And asking higher prices to "let" the new buyer beat them down. NOBODY wants to "lose" money...