Any bearded ones here?

[SARGE]

Oh Lordy how I piddled myself.

[Number One]

Depends ad

I didn't shit myself!!!

[smoky]

No. But both Greek and Roman were western civilizations. Barbarian is from Medieval Latin barbarinus, and the Greek, barbaros.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbari...nic_stereotype

Skyryder

What about the Spanish and Portuguese - the true Western nations? They were called the Basque and Iberian people at that time.
But the first historic reference to 'Western civilization' and the 'evil East' was the in Persian Wars - Greeks (Western) and the invading empire from the Mesopotamian parts, now Iran & Iraqi kind of area (Eastern).

Then the Romans (Latin) described themselves as the Western Civilization and the Greeks whose influences spread as far east as India were the less civilized Eastern Empire
Then just a few years into AD and the Romans split to the Eastern Roman Empire; up around Turkey and Asia Minor, while the so called Western Roman Empire quietly ticked along

There was then an uncomfortable period where some formerly Eastern Empires actually ruled to the West of the so called Western Empire, the great Byzantium and Ottoman Empires. But they were denoted for there religion (or lack of), they then became converts to the new Islamic teaching.

So Western and Eastern terms no longer described Empires as such, but religion became the demarcation - Western was Christian, Eastern was..... well everything else.

But then the great schism between the Western Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christianity - and with it a new definition of Eastern and Western - hence when Russia and other nations in that part of the world took up the Eastern Orthodox Christianity they became known as the 'Eastern Block', while the Muslims grew to be the 'Middle East'. In both cases 'the East' denotes non conformity to 'Western Roman Catholicism'.

So really - who gives a sh*t about who was or wasn't called western at any particular period of time.

Not that I know anything about history - I just made it all up

[Number One]

Not that I know anything about history - I just made it all up

I just saved myself a few minutes by skipping straight to the last line of your post and by doing that I also found that the rest probably wasn't worth reading anyway

[smoky]

I just saved myself a few minutes by skipping straight to the last line of your post and by doing that I also found that the rest probably wasn't worth reading anyway

What we talking about again????

Oh that's right - I'm a barbarian (hairy) and proud of it, not civilized at all.

[Number One]

I'm a barbarian (hairy) and proud of it, not civilized at all.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hairy Barbarian

[nudemetalz]

Us Guzzi riders use a wire brush to take care of beards and goatees 'cause we're tough !!

[smoky]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Hairy Barbarian

No way - he's waxed his chest, big poof
Now here's a twist - we started talking about beards, but what do chicks find wrong with hairy chests??????
I can understand why a hairy back is a bit off putting

[Number One]

No way - he's waxed his chest, big poof
Now here's a twist - we started talking about beards, but what do chicks find wrong with hairy chests??????
I can understand why a hairy back is a bit off putting

All depends...I have to say I kinda like a bit of a rug to run my falanges through mmmmmmmmmMagnum



For all those guys that can't grow them here's a 'prosthetic'

[SARGE]

, but what do chicks find wrong with hairy chests??????
I can understand why a hairy back is a bit off putting

hey now.. Easy!!!

[Number One]

hey now.. Easy!!!

You got the double sided hair rug going on SARGE

Was that you I took this pic of....

[SARGE]

you got the double sided hair rug going on sarge

Was that you i took this pic of....

yea... As im getting older.. Im finding that hair is falling out where i want to keep it and coming in hard out where i want to get rid of it...

[Number One]

yea... As im getting older.. Im finding that hair is falling out where i want to keep it and coming in hard out where i want to get rid of it...

Yeah I know what ya mean...I was lamenting the same thing the other night while painting my toenails

[smoky]

you know you're getting old when you go to brush the hair out of your eyes......... and it's your eyebrows


When the pretty young hairdresser trims the hair growing out of your ear.... embarrassing


When children think there's a fly up your nose ..... cause they can see it's legs hanging out your nostril!!!!


These things actually happened to me!! recently!!!

[smoky]

the barbarians are attacking Roman troops as we speak (TV One) AD 410 - described as 40,000 barberian Goths

Go the Goths