Stroud makes a stand!

[gav]

So, what ya paying Schwantzy to come back?

[scrivy]

So, what ya paying Schwantzy to come back?

Hee hee...........
I was waiting for that Gav!!!
I'm re-mortgaging my house...........

[hospitalfood]

reminds me of a stand made buy a top racer in the 70's. think his name was Kenny Roberts. changed the whole game for the racing boys and got them a fair deal.
I see no reason why NZ can't get it together, look after the racers and get a good race thing going on here.
I would love to see big races with top name international race boys coming here, also flat track racing picking up.
we have a great riding community in NZ and KB leads the field in bike sites, what can we do as a group ( many thousands of us ) to get more happening in the race / meet and rally scene ???????????????

[CHOPPA]

Apperance money would be fair if the promoters were using your name to promote the event. If not then you cant really demand it i suppose.

What do Brother pay Andrew to do? Im sure its to race and get as much coverage for them as possible? Its sorta irrelavent if theres start money or not if thats already your job.....

I was happy with the prize money i got, i used a set of used tyres so effectivly they didnt cost me anything so basically the same money as it would cost to race a pmcc race but i got prize money!

In saying all that i support andrews decision and im glad he stuck by his guns and didnt give them the satisfaction of having him there after he had asked for start money. Maybe next time he asks they might be more inclined to give him some cash cause its not an empty threat

[wharfy]

Because as I understand it the money is just going to local sports clubs etc.

Not saying there should not be appearance money, but the local sports clubs provide the volunteers who do all the set-up and CLEAN UP for the event. It is a HUGE effort. If too much was shaved off they might not be so inclined to help.

The IOM TT survives quite nicely without the MotoGP or Superbike guy's turning up.

Also I'm not sure that many "non bikers" would know who the top riders were. A lot of the punters just go to drink piss in the sun and maybe see a crash.

Im glad I don't have to make the call !!

[wharfy]

Dont forget the $100 for each lap led in the king of the streets race, I say to stroud grow a pair and race for your winnings makes for some good racing. As for the streets are dangerous, Yeah they are but alot of us ride on the road and we dont get paid for it and we have to contend with cars and shit. If he is truely NZ's number 1 then come and bloody well prove it.

Grow a pair !!! Did you see him banging fairings with Budgen at Manfield !! If his balls were any bigger he'd need a wheel barrow to carry them around. He's raced at the IOM TT he is 7 times NZ Champ. He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone !!!

[Quasievil]

As for the streets are dangerous, Yeah they are but alot of us ride on the road and we dont get paid for it and we have to contend with cars and shit.

Um kinda no comparision dude, I would take the cars n shit anyday (from a safety perspective at least) lol

[Squid69]

I definitely support Stroud's call. ALOT on the line for little reward.

Off topic rant: I REALLY dont know how the top super-bike guys meet budget. I really dont. $60k (one particular top level superbike riders annual race budget) is hard to front up with for anyone, Stroud (with 7 kids), included. I have seen what a particular top rider is remunerated from the so-called "factory" sponsership, and even considering many round wins, there would still be tens of thousands decficit to make up, by the rider or personal sponsers. The reward?? bragging rights. There is little monetary remuneration in NZ bike racing. GEEZ, they must really love racing bikes!!

Good on Stroudy for having the sack too!

Just to add: reading the above post reminded me of an article I read yesterday of past years speedway tails. Appearance money and prize money!! HOLY CRAP. The riders, to get appearance money, were contracted to approximately 25 meets per year at the nominated track. The appearance money was to attract the punters, ensuring boomer gate sales!! What UNBELIEVABLE times our generation has missed out on!!

before they could offer money they would have to make it.

There is another post about the puke national round on here...being canceled because of not enough entries.
you bring the crowds im sure they would be able to offer bigger prizes/money.

At wanganui there was prize money, i think it was 250 for first, down to 25 for 9th and 10th for the "minor" classes and 450 down to 50 in the others

[Buckets4Me]

good on him is all I can say

I would pay to race on the same track as him (at the same time even)



just remember he has 7 kids to buy bikes for (how much is an R1 )
and collage weddings etc

[mikeey01]

Grow a pair !!! Did you see him banging fairings with Budgen at Manfield !! If his balls were any bigger he'd need a wheel barrow to carry them around. He's raced at the IOM TT he is 7 times NZ Champ. He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone !!!

You are so right!

He's already been there, done that and now at 40 me thinks he's still doing dam well to keep up with fellas half his age!

Punt the Brittan around the IOM? yeah he must have some!

[scrivy]

Grow a pair !!! Did you see him banging fairings with Budgen at Manfield !! If his balls were any bigger he'd need a wheel barrow to carry them around. He's raced at the IOM TT he is 7 times NZ Champ. He doesn't need to prove anything to anyone !!!

You are so right Wharfy.

But people who don't know Andrew, will think his stand is selfish and for his own good. Little do they know that he is not far from retirement from superbike racing. His stand is for the next generation of elite racers that will take his place.
Just like all the GP stars of years gone by that stood up for safer racetracks around the world. They made a difference, and so too will Andrew.

I applaud Stroudy for his actions!!

Until Strouds retirement, may the great racing continue!!!

Looking forward to Puke...............................


Scrivy

[koba]

15-000 x $25-00 paying people is a huge bank roll for the day, it is always WELL DOCUMENTED how much money was givin back to the community for the event, f the community, they make there money from the shops being open and all the people in thre town spending money whilst at the races

Most of the stuff said on this thread is interesting and reasonably valid either way but the red underlined but there is a bit off colour, it would not take all that many vocal detractors with a bit of local swing whinging loud enough to ruin the whole thing.
I think it important to recognise and respect the effort that goes into making the event happen and the tolerance the locals have for a hoard of loud motorcyclists invading their main street for a day!

It was my first time watching, I don't have a bike that I can race there yet but I thought it was a great event, $25 bucks was a good price and for the same entry coin as a night at the speedway I got to see some brilliant racing.
Adding up the cost of getting up there and the like it would have been a couple of hundie bucks just to watch but I'm still well happy with that and will be back next year with a bike, prize money or not!