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    Aussie cricket coverage

    Today's Sydney Morning Herald:
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    A law unto himself, Lee ought to be bounced out
    By Peter Roebuck
    February 28, 2005

    Flashpoint: Brendon McCullum confronts Brett Lee over a beamer.
    Photo: AP

    Brett Lee must be dropped from the Australia side for the rest of this tour of New Zealand. His beamer directed at Brendon McCullum on Saturday was merely the latest in a series of violent deliveries sent down by a pace bowler at best reckless in his approach and at worst utterly unwilling to remain within long-accepted parameters governing conduct on the cricket field.

    If Australia's captain, coach and manager did not have sharp words with Lee after the match then they stand in dereliction of their duties.

    No team seriously seeking to improve its reputation for sportsmanship can tolerate the brutal beamers sent down in recent times by the supposedly amiable competitor. Unfortunately the signs are not promising. After the match Ricky Ponting talked about dew and slippery run-ups. In his heart he knows better. Maybe he has been frustrated by the nonsense spouted by some New Zealanders eager to distract attention from the lame performance of their team.

    Lee's head-hunter was the nastiest ball seen on a cricket field since, well, the beamer the same player directed at Abdul Razzaq in the one-day final in Sydney. Moreover the circumstances were similar in that both opponents had irritated the fast bowler. Previously Razzaq had sent two disgraceful beamers to Lee whereupon the umpire had removed him from the attack. Not that he had many more overs to bowl, or chances to nail a fierce opponent.

    Lee duly greeted the Pakistani with several scorching bumpers. Then he sent down a bean-ball, a delivery that became the talk of grade cricket. Apparently Tony Greig condemned the ball on television, in which case more power to his elbow. Others defended the local man, saying he would not hurt a fly. Odd, though, that Razzaq was the victim of this "accidental" delivery. Odd that the ball was not merely a yard higher than usual but also directed at a batsman standing outside his leg stump.

    McCullum had done nothing wrong except introduce himself as a dangerous and confrontational opponent with a suspected weakness against rising deliveries. Lee welcomed him with a bumper and was justifiably dismayed when the delivery was deemed to be illegitimate even though it barely passed over a ducking batsman. Lee continued with a flyer that was cut over cover for a couple of runs.

    Then came the beamer, hurled at the batsman's chest and clearly capable of breaking ribs. It was an ugly and deplorable delivery whose timing was bound to raise eyebrows even among members of the cheer squad. Although he had been bowling admirably, Lee had been having another bad day in the field, with overthrows and other mishaps indicating a distracted state of mind.

    On television Michael Slater defended his former colleague, saying that he was not the sort of man to try to harm an opponent with an unfair delivery. Slater is a fine commentator but on this occasion may have erred on the side of generosity. Beamers can indeed be sent down accidentally - Glenn McGrath once struck Mark Ramprakash on the ear with a bean-ball that appeared out of the blue and that everyone sensed was a mishap. Most beamers, though, are deliberate. Context is crucial.

    Lee immediately expressed regret for his action but his credibility has been worn to the bone. Apologies are easy and it is extraordinary that so much significance is attached to them. In 1993 Wasim Akram apologised after delivering the nastiest beamer seen in 20 years at Chris Adams, a county batsman who had accused him of ball-tampering. Astonishingly, no action was taken against him. At the lunch break the pair almost came to blows. Wasim is charming and overrated.

    Beamers are a blight on the game. Exchanges between batsmen and bowlers are built on trust. Batsmen understand that bouncers may be directed at them and prepare accordingly. Otherwise they may as well take up marbles. No one blamed Lee for the rearing deliveries that struck Matthew Papps. Not that his action has always been above suspicion. His bumper that removed Marcus Trescothick in Perth in 2002 was sent down from wide of the crease and with an open chest, a ruse now in abeyance. At least the ball to the Englishman bounced. Bean-balls are incomparably more dangerous because they elude detection by avoiding the usual channels studied by batsmen awaiting a delivery.

    Besides telling Lee that Australians do not bowl beamers, officials might also point out that court cases can result from incidents on the field. If a spear tackle can become a matter of litigation and damages then so can a beamer. As McCullum was not hurt he might not be able to start a civil case. His refusal to accept Lee's apology indicated his view of the matter. Nor was he alone in his opinion.

    Lee's beamer spoilt an otherwise superb fightback by an Australian side that contains several brilliant fieldsmen, some doughty operators and many fine sportsmen, a side that ought to rise above the sort of viciousness witnessed on Saturday night. Apart from anything else, they are representing the nation.

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    How about a really complex rule like...

    "do that twice in a match and you see the rest of it from the bench"

    Let's acept there may be accidents in cricket... but the price of that accident would be you being BLOODY CAREFUL NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

    Kinda like tennis... with the second service. If you stuff it up twice in a row you forfeit. The difference in cricket is that someone gets hurt.

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    bah, cricket's going soft. The odd head-hunter every now and again is a good way for fast bowlers to make sure an in-form batsman doesn't get too cocky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    How about a really complex rule like...

    "do that twice in a match and you see the rest of it from the bench"

    Let's acept there may be accidents in cricket... but the price of that accident would be you being BLOODY CAREFUL NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.

    Kinda like tennis... with the second service. If you stuff it up twice in a row you forfeit. The difference in cricket is that someone gets hurt.

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    There is already a rule like that, if you read the article it talks about razzaq getting taken out of the attack after bowling 2 beamers. Its just that the umpires are usually too soft to do anything about it.

    I'm fairly surprised that this has happened, i saw it live on tv and didn't think twice about it. Maybe if mccullum had got a broken had or finger then there would be a big commotion about it. Maybe it did slip, it doesnt take that much bowling at that pace for a ball to slip, not that i'm standing up for an auzzie.

    Maybe its something that we can use to take away the fact that we are getting bent over and screwed up the arse by the auzzies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey
    bah, cricket's going soft. The odd head-hunter every now and again is a good way for fast bowlers to make sure an in-form batsman doesn't get too cocky...
    thats not what he is commenting about. you are allowed to bowl one bouncer between head and shoulder height an over in one dayers now. he is talking about bowling beemers, which don't bounce and are very hard to pick up and get out of the way of.

    nothing wrong with a short ball every over or 2 to keep the batsman honest, but i don't like seeing bowlers bowling like that. its pretty cheap, although i am very surprised that an auzzie journalist is coming out with statements like this.

    probably the fact that the cricket is so 1 sided that they need something to make people watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    thats not what he is commenting about. you are allowed to bowl one bouncer between head and shoulder height an over in one dayers now. he is talking about bowling beemers, which don't bounce and are very hard to pick up and get out of the way of.
    I see what you're (he's) trying to say, but how does a ball hit you in the noggin if it doesn't bounce (with the exception of a full-toss)?
    I'm not saying I approve of bowlers bowling like that for a living, but chucking someone out of the side is a tad extreme.
    Then there's that whole 'spirit of cricket' rubbish. Don't get me wrong, I love the game, and have done nearly all my life, but in the end the player's pay cheques are dependant on playing to win. Recent example - Macca did the right thing by standing his ground and telling Gillie to F-off.
    Ugh, I better leave this now, I could write a book on what I think about the game - I've got work to do!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    How about a really complex rule like...

    "do that twice in a match and you see the rest of it from the bench"

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    Agree - except I'd make it twice in a series.
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    sorry, i didnt make myself very clear. the guy writing the article is blasting lee for bowling a full toss (beemer) at mccullum, which isn't the first instance that this has happened when lee has been bowling. when lee hit papps it was a bouncer and was a legitimate delivery which was just too fast for papps to miss, this article writer is not blasting lee for doing this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave
    Agree - except I'd make it twice in a series.
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    yeah the current rule says something to the lines of, if a bowler intentionally bowls dangerously the umpire can at any time take him out of the attack for the rest of the innings.

    So it just depends how much balls the ump has to do it, i've seen it happen but not that often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    sorry, i didnt make myself very clear. the guy writing the article is blasting lee for bowling a full toss (beemer) at mccullum, which isn't the first instance that this has happened when lee has been bowling. when lee hit papps it was a bouncer and was a legitimate delivery which was just too fast for papps to miss, this article writer is not blasting lee for doing this.
    No, not your fault. I just got mixed up. For a change I went to watch the game there, so obviously I didn't pick up as much as I usually would watching it on TV. (I figure if you want to WATCH a sport, you watch it on TV, you go to a game for the atmosphere.) So I ended up paying more attention ot the beer, the cat fight and the regular scuffles-cum-some-getting-thrown-out.
    I would imagine my beer effected memory thought that delivery to mccullum bounced. I still don't think fast bowlers should get kicked out of a team for it though. It's not like they can take wickets with delvieries like that, plus they have to rebowl and give away a run anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    sorry, i didnt make myself very clear. the guy writing the article is blasting lee for bowling a full toss (beemer) at mccullum, which isn't the first instance that this has happened when lee has been bowling. when lee hit papps it was a bouncer and was a legitimate delivery which was just too fast for papps to miss, this article writer is not blasting lee for doing this.

    It wasn't a full toss, neither was it a legit delivery.
    Above the waist (in the batting stance) on the full is beamball. It is illegal and unsporting, which is not surprising for a cheat like Lee. His crimes in the past include several instances of intimidatory bowling, including overstepping deliberately (two steps!) to try and hust Robbie Hart. He is also a chucker, I've seen it for myself at Seddon Park - he chucked the fifth or sixth ball in four consecutive overs (knowing that no umpire was gonna call him without seeing a couple in the over).

    He is a disgrace to Aussie cricket.

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    I know its all part of the game blah blah blah,
    But Seeing what was going on, Lee was attacking the batsmans bodies!
    That is not acceptable!
    Did ya see the Egg size lump on Papps head after he was hit!

    When playing at that level, there are all sorts of people watching, all with different opinions, but what about the Kids all around the world watching! They will be watching Lee and seeing what he has been doing, seeing him NOT apoligising while on the feild and seeing NO ONE doing anything to show that it is wrong!
    They will take that to their games, and in the end, will be banned from their team (or punished) for doing something that they think is right.

    Ive been hit by a couple before. And have very nearly knocked a few bowlers out afterwards! So im totally against all sorts of attacking bowling.
    Once in a while, i can get over, but when you are there to play cricket, the last thing you want to be doing is constantly ducking high bowls.

    Ill stop there. I could go on for days about this, but think people are prob already asleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar
    It wasn't a full toss, neither was it a legit delivery.
    Above the waist (in the batting stance) on the full is "bean" ball. It is illegal and unsporting, which is not surprising for a cheat like Lee. His crimes in the past include several instances of intimidatory bowling, including overstepping deliberately (two steps!) to try and hust Robbie Hart. He is also a chucker, I've seen it for myself at Seddon Park - he chucked the fifth or sixth ball in four consecutive overs (knowing that no umpire was gonna call him without seeing a couple in the over).

    He is a disgrace to Aussie cricket.
    It was a full toss, lee bowled a full toss at brendon mccullum and it hit him on the glove. this is what the article is about. And yes i do agree it was an illegal delivery even though the useless umps didn't no ball it for being above the waist on the full.

    papp's delivery was legitimate, it wasn't over head height cause it hit him in the head and he hadn't already bowled a bouncer that over, hence was the 1 ball allowed between head an shoulder height an over.

    I agree that lee is a bit of a bad sport but he has been able to get away with it for so long and is going to continue to do it untill something gets said about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14
    It was a full toss, lee bowled a full toss at brendon mccullum and it hit him on the glove. this is what the article is about. And yes i do agree it was an illegal delivery even though the useless umps didn't no ball it for being above the waist on the full.

    papp's delivery was legitimate, it wasn't over head height cause it hit him in the head and he hadn't already bowled a bouncer that over, hence was the 1 ball allowed between head an shoulder height an over.

    I agree that lee is a bit of a bad sport but he has been able to get away with it for so long and is going to continue to do it untill something gets said about it.
    It was given "no ball" by the square leg umpire.

    A full toss is a ball that would hit the base of the stumps on the full. This delivery was gonna go to the 'keeper on the full...

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