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    Council blames speed yet again where road condition obviously at fault

    16 feb - yet another serious accident

    22 feb - driver dies

    Now I live on this road, and the corner in question is a few hundred metres away from my driveway.

    for YEARS cars have been regularly coming off the roads in this area. some even crashing on the straight bits.

    for YEARS the road has had a habit of having the edges slip away, or the road splitting open and water rising through the cracks

    finally, early february, a crack opened on the inside of this corner, bringing with it water and silt. i blamed poor driving in wet weather, until i very nearly crashed my car myself in the DRY. there were weekly crashes where people hit the slippery stuff, spin, hit the inside of the corner and roll down the hill.

    the council put up the 30kph temporary "slippery" signs - which do fuck all cause they leave them everywhere anyway.

    after Ms Kirby (teacher from my old high school) crashed they put up a big flashing sign. this actually began to slow traffic.

    now, to "fix" the road, these retards decided to address the tar bleed, not the fucking leak in the middle of the road. sure enough they rough up the surface, do a bad job of it too so now the corner is bumpy rather than flat, paint new lines and proclaim it to be fixed, leaving the slippery signs out to further desensitise the public.

    meanwhile the crack continues to leak - albeit slowly, but it's still there.


    Now, this is a corner that i can say with much experience can be managed at over 100kph in the dry, and 80kph in the wet, BEFORE they dealt with the tar bleed, BEFORE the crack opened up

    I can also say, having spoken with most those who crash into my fence, all but ONE crash has been speed related, and that ONE crash he was doing in excess of 140kph and lost control on the straight bit. the rest are either driver inattention, driver incompentence, or poor surface combined with driver inattention and/or incompetence.
    There will be other accidents cause by speeding, but those were speeding - not justification to lower the limit if people are crashing due to speed above the posted limit

    But, yet again, SPEED is found to be the main contributing factor, and knocking 50kph is somehow going to solve this.

    This just pisses me right off. the limit used to be open road, then they knocked it to 70. they NEVER had any sign telling people to do the corner at less than 100, despite the next one (a faster one at that) having a big yellow <<<45 on it

    NOW all of a sudden it's speed that's a problem, not the fact that the road annually opens up and until now all they do is fill the crack with tar snakes. the fact that they just put more seal to fill in the sinking road.

    The roads in this area are very busy, and in appalling conditon. they refuse to do anything to seriously combat traffic in the suburbs, infact the council has effectively made it worse, and they refuse to fix the detours people take to avoid the traffic until there is a death.

    A few months ago i sent a complaint asking for road repairs, and a scathing remark on how deaths seem to be the only way to get things fixed, and asked who is responsible if another person dies on a road they've been warned about to fix. they said they have already spent their load on road repairs, and ignored the rest.

    A classic example would be the couple that died a few year back hitting a power pole. they exit a corner to find the road dips away (big sinkhole that throws me from he seat of my bike), and promptly lost control, hitting a power pole. the sinkhole was immediately repaired. the sinkhole has returned, and was in my complaint. the sinkhole is still there, getting worse.

    the only repairs in the area recently have been roughing up that one corner, patching only a select few of the sunken/slipping edges, and extensive planting of flowers on roundabouts

    Frankly, I've had enough of this BS. Waitakere City Council, get your fucking ass into gear and address the problem - stop falsely blaming speed.

    furthermore, there are no footpaths on Candia rd, and in spite of this people insist on jogging/cycling/horse riding along it, leaving horse shit behind for us bikers to avoid. frankly this is unacceptable. install footpaths or stop the pedestrians.

    It is a 70Kph zone, a good way to bypass the conjested suburbs, and that it should stay.

    Photos to come.

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    Send this to the papers and you might see the road being fixed within your lifetime. Otherwise keep sending letters to anyone and every one you can think of until it gets fixed.
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    West Auckland... how surprising.

    I have phoned the council and complained about the state of road repairs out here. When they re-seal an area, the temp speed signs are left up for a few days (not even a week) and then they disappear without sweeping the road.
    Great for bikers and lycra-loons, cyclists, etc. Not!
    If they cannot even do something simple like that, what hope is there for the Candia Rd corner?
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    Candia road is a bloody mess. Simpson Road (I think) is just as bad, but ruts and the edge of the road falling away.

    Still, as long as Bob Harvey has his magnificent new council chamber/ediface to himself, the world is good.
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    Is that the big fuck off 'shift' in the road just up from your house? I remember going WHAT THE FUCK! as we drove over the top of the hill. The height difference in the road was about the same as, or bigger than a decent speed bump, except that it runs with the road not perpindicular.
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    photos to come when the traffic dies down a bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Candia road is a bloody mess. Simpson Road (I think) is just as bad, but ruts and the edge of the road falling away.

    Still, as long as Bob Harvey has his magnificent new council chamber/ediface to himself, the world is good.
    simpson road has had it's own fair share of accidents - it's one of, if not THE worst road I have ever seen.

    that new building is such an outrage - a triumph over common sense is the nicest thing to be said about it

    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    Is that the big fuck off 'shift' in the road just up from your house? I remember going WHAT THE FUCK! as we drove over the top of the hill. The height difference in the road was about the same as, or bigger than a decent speed bump, except that it runs with the road not perpindicular.
    no but there's heaps around - simpson road is especially appalling

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    When all the councils get merged into one big one, there'll be heaps of money saved in wages paid out to council workers. No point having four people doing one person's job..
    All this money saved will either be given back to the taxpayers, or ploughed back into the infrastructure like roads and pavements.


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    right, well i took those photos on friday night and will organise them and put them into a more coherent thread, probably this weekend

    in the meantime, the first four pics are of simpson rd - there was a crash here just this morning

    there was also another Candia Rd crash on sunday

    the last two are of water/silt leaking up through candia road. the last pic is the leak that killed Ms Kirby, after the road was "repaired", and is one of many that still remain, some with visible cracks in the "repaired" road surface
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    I remember how fun that road was when we were riding along it at night in that thunderstorm

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    All well and good putting it here ... what are you going to do about it .. cos I don't think they read this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Lobster View Post
    When all the councils get merged into one big one, there'll be heaps of money saved in wages paid out to council workers. No point having four people doing one person's job..
    All this money saved will either be given back to the taxpayers, or ploughed back into the infrastructure like roads and pavements.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty View Post
    All well and good putting it here ... what are you going to do about it .. cos I don't think they read this site.
    they don't seem to care about emails either


    suppose i could cut it down enough to send into the paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbyclist View Post
    they don't seem to care about emails either


    suppose i could cut it down enough to send into the paper?
    Now you are getting the picture ... councils hate bad press ... and they with bad press they need to do something to counter it.
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    Pic 3...farking 'ell. The people responsible for that need shooting. Twice.
    Get some immediate publicity going on that. It's nothing less than criminal negligence.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    So the road just sitting there is at fault, what ever happened to driver judgement? What if this had been a gravel road which guys like me and Motu love?

    Eyes and brain power come into this - drive (or ride for bikers) to what you see. if you can't see far enough ahead, slow down until you are comfortable with it.

    I will rue the day all motorcycle enjoyable roads will be so straight, smooth and boring I will lose interest in the past-time. OK, OK some will bleat on at me but this is a poorly maintained road, but no road gets like that over night and locals should know the road and foreigners should drive according to what they see first time. No excuses excepted as far as I am concerned.
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