Oh good one Key: saving jobs - Bullshit

[Skyryder]

You are joking?
The employment and training opportunities offered were on the basis of ast over-employment at the tax payers expense. The four Depts you mention rivaled their communist counterparts in Eastern Europe for inefficiency, bad management, corruption and theft...

And unemplyment and associated issues are not???

inefficiency, bad management, corruption and theft...Sounds like the Health Boards.

Skyryder

[Swoop]

inefficiency, bad management, corruption and the left...Sounds like...

The Liarbour manifesto?

[Skyryder]

The Liarbour manifesto?

They never had one since the advent of MMP. Nats are much the same. Most policy are generalasions based on ideology.

Skyryder

[Swoop]

They never had one since the advent of MMP. Nats are much the same. Most policy are generalasions based on ideology.

Skyryder

Inefficiency, bad management and corruption. That really sums them up nicely.
The Lunatic Fringe (sorry... "the green party") would also fall under those three labels.

[Mr Merde]

closer to 10,000 including territorials. also dont forget that the issued clothing is tri service and not just army issue.

From the front page of the NZ Defence Force Website


"The New Zealand Defence Force comprises 9,339 Regular Force, 2,181 Territorial Force, and 2,630 civilian staff members across the armed services of Navy, Army and Air Force, operating as Three Services - One Force."

[Oscar]

And unemplyment and associated issues are not???

inefficiency, bad management, corruption and theft...Sounds like the Health Boards.

Skyryder

Unemployment is certainly an issue, but going back to failed systems of the past will not help. Even if we could, the world has moved on.

In 1984 NZ was bankrupt and living beyond its means, something people who criticize Roger Douglas conveniently forget. To use one of your examples, NZR was loosing shitloads of taxpayers money every year with three times the staff that they were reduced to in the 90s. Rail was protected by regulation and yet the still managed to steal/damage or lose more than they could deliver...