Boycott Nelson poker run, 14 March 2016

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 05:54

Originally Posted by Bonez

It's against KB rules to post PMs in public forums. Please read the site rules.

Looks like your imagination is running away with you. What veiled threat?

There was none, I offered to introduce myself.

I agree with imagination thing and I also think this individual has the Hells angels confused with the battle between the MM and Black Power. We all make mistakes.

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 06:00

Originally Posted by thommo77

Does it matter?!

Kiwis are getting sick of the gang shit.
Doesn't matter if you are Hells Angels, Mongrel mob, Black Power or Bill & Ben the flower pot men - as soon as you put on your 'patch', you're all tarred with the same brush.

My point was - why the hell does a Wanganui and Akld based gang feel the need to sponsor a ride in Nelson?

And please, dont make out that the Hells Angels are model citizens.

I wasn't trying to make them out to be model citizens, where do you get that from?

They come to Nelson because they were invited to sponsor the run and Nelsonians support the Spinal Unit run that the HA host in Auckland every December. I was one of them and even my daughter attended at one stop, she thought it was a great event.

I too am sick of all the gang shit and I'd like you to post a link to any recent trouble that the Hells Angels have been involved in. I doubt you'll be able to find one. However, Mongrel Mob thuggery goes on ad infinitum as does your factless, mindless rant.

Put up or shut up.

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 14:25

thommo77 PM'd me and while I won't post his message to me I thought my response to him should be in the public domain. As a portion of this post is in response to comments unseen you will just have to use your noggin to pick up the thread, so to speak.

The HA's connection with the drug trade is well documented (Google it) and the last time I recall seeing anything in the mass media regarding assaults was actually in Wanganui. It turned out the HA's were set upon by a bunch of MM members, with bats etc, and the HA's sorted them out. The HA's didn't start it, they finished it. As for murders; I think you'll have to dig pretty deep to find any HA's connected with a murder in NZ in recent decades. (I could be wrong though....it's happened before.)

I'm not saying they're saints but to boycott a fund-raising poker run because the HA's sponsor it (they sponsor it remember, they don't milk it) is to deny the St Johns Ambulance valuable resources as they cop the proceeds, not the HA's. In reality, I can name some HA's who will be clocking up over 2,000kms (Auckland-Nelson-day trip-and return) to attend this poker run and all the expenses will be from their own, or possibly club, pockets. Either way, it's not a small amount of k's for a day run, is it?

When was the last time you rode 2,000kms to help raise funds for a worthy cause? I went to Auckland for their Spinal Unit run last December, where were you?

Now; if you're going to throw all M/C's into the 'gang' basket, what of the Lost Breed? Are they a bunch of baby-murdering thugs? I think not. Do you KNOW any of them? There are numerous M/C's out there who do not have gang-like tendancies. I've just named one, there's The Axe Throwers M/C in the Taranaki and let's not forget another in our own back yard; the Nelson Classic and Vintage MOTORCYCLE CLUB!!!

It's because of myopic, paranoid people such as you that the term 'Motorcycle Club' is having trouble dragging itself from the gang stereotype. M/C doesn't always mean 'gang'. Sure, it often does, that cannot be denied, but NOT always and not all M/C members are gangsters even if the club they belong to has been involved in wrongdoing in the past.

Many clubs now use the suffix S/C for 'Social Club'. They refrain from back patches but still get up to shennigans on and around motorcycles; like tearing around back roads on poker runs and gathering at club or public houses to drink beer and talk bikes. Hardly the actions of baby-murdering thugs...... More like the actions of like-minded people looking for a good time.

thommo77, get down to the Turf on Saturday, even if you walk or take the car so that I can't "threaten" you when I spot your Kwaka, and mill around the bikers. Then get back this thread and make some honest comments about how things went.

**thommo77** · 13th March 2009, 14:58

Fair enough.
Peasea - You've made some valid points.
I'll admit, perhaps I went off a bit half-cocked and lumped the Hells Angels in with the others too readily.

For that, I apologise if I offended anyone and/or made accusations that are false.
I guess that, ultimately, it is a charity ride and for that I hope plenty of $'s are raised.

**naphazoline** · 13th March 2009, 15:01

I can vouch for the axe throwers.I've met and know some of them,and they're a pretty good bunch of blokes.(and chicks)
The magogs are a pretty sedate bunch these days too.

Just some biker people,sharing their love of a common interest.

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 15:03

Originally Posted by thommo77

Fair enough.
Peasea - You've made some valid points.
I'll admit, perhaps I went off a bit half-cocked and lumped the Hells Angels in with the others too readily.

For that, I apologise if I offended anyone and/or made accusations that are false.
I guess that, ultimately, it is a charity ride and for that I hope plenty of $'s are raised.

Good on ya for fronting up. You're not entirely wrong, just partially.

More $'s will be raised if you register. Get along to the Turf dude.

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 15:04

Originally Posted by naphazoline

I can vouch for the axe throwers.I've met and know some of them,and they're a pretty good bunch of blokes.(and chicks)
The magogs are a pretty sedate bunch these days too.

Just some biker people,sharing their love of a common interest.

They host a good show and an excellent poker run round the mountain huh? I think it might be every Labour Weekend, brain fade for the mo.

**naphazoline** · 13th March 2009, 15:13

Originally Posted by peasea

They host a good show and an excellent poker run round the mountain huh? I think it might be every Labour Weekend, brain fade for the mo.

Every second year on labour weekend for the show.It's grown quite big in the few years they've had it.

Haven't done a run with them,as i ride a jappa,but i like bears bikes too.Infact,i kinda wish i'd brought a 675 daytona,as they really spin my wheels.But i got such a cheap offer on the blade,that i couldn't turn it down.

**cs363** · 13th March 2009, 17:39

Originally Posted by peasea

I doubt that Tania is a Hells Angel.

And according to people that I would think should know, you'd be correct:

http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/Data/witikatania.htm

**cs363** · 13th March 2009, 17:45

Good on you peasea and thommo77!

peasea for your sound and well reasoned argument that I agree with and thommo77 for being man enough to admit you went off

Nice to see a thread that doesn't turn into a

on KB and ends with a happy outcome. Hope you both go to the run and have a great time, it's for a great cause. I'd certainly be keen if it was closer.

P.S. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to change the thread title to something like 'Support The Nelson Poker Run'....

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 19:53

Originally Posted by cs363

Good on you peasea and thommo77!

peasea for your sound and well reasoned argument that I agree with and thommo77 for being man enough to admit you went off

Nice to see a thread that doesn't turn into a

on KB and ends with a happy outcome. Hope you both go to the run and have a great time, it's for a great cause. I'd certainly be keen if it was closer.

P.S. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to change the thread title to something like 'Support The Nelson Poker Run'....

....and get it sponsored by Jockey, just so we can thank them for their support?

**scumdog** · 13th March 2009, 20:02

Mehhh, if you have to belong to a gang to get through life I guess your life is 'lacking' in some way...poor self image, bad childhood, feeling deprived...whatever...

Now a member of a motorcycle club is a different matter....

**scumdog** · 13th March 2009, 20:07

Originally Posted by peasea

I too am sick of all the gang shit and I'd like you to post a link to any recent trouble that the Hells Angels have been involved in. I doubt you'll be able to find one. However, Mongrel Mob thuggery goes on ad infinitum as does your factless, mindless rant.

Put up or shut up.

H.A. = silent, sneaky and deadly like a stoat, know how to rmain below the horizon

MM = loud and obnoxious like a drunk rhino, don't care who notices them.

The victims don't care who whacked them, sold them cheesy drugs, ripped them off or whatever, it still hurts.

**peasea** · 13th March 2009, 20:13

Originally Posted by scumdog

H.A. = silent, sneaky and deadly like a stoat, know how to rmain below the horizon

MM = loud and obnoxious like a drunk rhino, don't care who notices them.

The victims don't care who whacked them, sold them cheesy drugs, ripped them off or whatever, it still hurts.

I don't doubt it. I wasn't making anyone out to be saints. Even I'm not one of those, goodness gracious, I've gone over 100kph on occasion so perhaps I could be labelled a baby-murderer.

Do you have a 'You Tube' link so we can see what a drunk rhino looks like in full colour?