Multi-compound tyres

[Ocean1]

I often amazes me the different experiences riders have in relation to the same tyre.

I think to a large degree it's one of those things one's sub-conscious decides, and rationalises after the fact. Confidence is such a large part of riding performance, a couple of bad experiences prey on the mind, with a coresponding negative reinforcing effect on one's performance. We blame the tyre, replacing it with something "better". And lo, a couple of weeks without incident on the new wonder rubber proves reassuring, restoring confidence, and therefore performance.

[discotex]

016, fitted them as an experiment, they seemed to be a hypersport tyre but good all round performance. pffft, someone was drunk.

I found the 016 a great track/road/commute all-rounder. Certainly much better than the 015's they replaced in every respect.

Whether the term all-rounder extends to superb wet performance I don't know... I haven't had any moments on them in the wet even when riding reasonably quick. I do keep in mind the edges are basically slicks though.

Might be a tyre pressure thing? I'm surprised they dropped you if you weren't pushing it.

Going to give the M3's a try next I think just for a laugh. I like the idea of their rumored quick warm up for autumn/winter trackdays.

[pritch]

I'm currently running Diablo Rosso - more tyre than I need, but it was an itch I wanted to scratch. And there was another track day I was going to do but...

The wet weather performance of these was a concern as some manufacturers put their best wet road magic into their ST tyres. In the past three weeks or so I have been out in some torrential downpours and the Rossos never gave a nanoseconds concern. In most instances I was touring at the time so was being *very* conservative, but I was impressed all the same.

[Devil]

I'll be sticking with the 016's. Had to drop the pressures a little though because of the light bike. They've got a pretty stiff carcass so have to work a little to warm them up. They are a hypersport tyre and dont particularly like being cold!

Getting fantastic wear and grip out of them.

[Devil]

Edges are incredibly soft, had them blistering and peeling very easily, so would be great in the dry.

Pressures and suspension setup :P
Mine look fresh as. Thats after 5000km too!

...and you did WHAT on the way to Paeroa???

[TOTO]

I'm running Michelin Pilot Power 2ct (dual compound) and am really happy with them in the wet. give good milage too.

[discotex]

Pressures and suspension setup :P
Mine look fresh as. Thats after 5000km too!

I think I've done 8500km on my BT-016's and probably have 1000km left before they square off too much due to commuting 40km weekdays. That's with two track days and ~5000km of open road.

You don't want too hard suspension with them or too high pressures - I run 34f/36r on the road and 30f/32r (cold after 1.5hr cool down between sessions) on the track. No idea for hot temps because I can't be arsed burning my hands on the front discs

[AllanB]

I've 'heard' that the dual compounds only have the soft compound 1 inch from the outside in of the tyre. So it's a very small section of the tyre that has the sticky stuff?

So in the wet you wouldn't be on this section of the tyre at all I'd guess.

PR2's have more sticky than this - after a heavy fang you can actually see the change area - the centres are smooth and the softer rubber gets a bit ruffed up.

Below shows the compounds. Note the fronts are stickier than the rears

[discotex]

Belos shows the compounds. Note the fronts are stickier than the rears

Ditto for the BT-016 (has 3 compounds on the rear)