District Council gold diggers...

[MadDuck]

Yep 2 mill that cost. And look what one the best prize for the best exhibit.

A Fred Dag lookalike. Talk about style. That would never have happened in Auckland. Jeeeeaz the Garden City just won't be the same.

Hehehe...only in the Sarf Island

[Winston001]

don't forget,one of my biggest fek offs.
gst on my rates.rates are a tax,so a tax on a tax

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[MadDuck]

gst on my rates.rates are a tax,so a tax on a tax

Then there is GST on FBT

[Winston001]

even funnier is that the weely council has deemed we will now go ona a three year valuation cycle.....
Poll tax...you pay indirectly through your landlord if you not a ratepayer...

?? Thought every council used a 3 year valuation cycle.

A poll tax, also called a Community Charge, is paid by individuals, not ratepayers. Under the existing system a landlord getting $250/wk for a family of 7 in a house, pays no more rates than if there are only 2 people in the house. But 7 people are going to impact on the sewers and streets a helluva lot more than 2.

[Swoop]

But Mr Parker brought you the Ellerslie flower show

Best con-job Auckland ever did!

[Winston001]

Then there is GST on FBT

Really? Can't see how that works - FBT isn't a good or service. Its a tax to make up for an employee getting a tax-free benefit like a company car.

Actually I think FBT sucks anyway.

[piston broke]

?? Thought every council used a 3 year valuation cycle.

A poll tax, also called a Community Charge, is paid by individuals, not ratepayers. Under the existing system a landlord getting $250/wk for a family of 7 in a house, pays no more rates than if there are only 2 people in the house. But 7 people are going to impact on the sewers and streets a helluva lot more than 2.

yep,my neighbours,8 in one house.
i pay the same sewerage as them,only 1 of me.
farks me off

[McJim]

3 year cycle gets mitigated by the supply of equalisation data by Land Registration or QV doesn't it? That way properties that haven't been valued for 2 years might get a 40%+ on their calc, a property that hasn't been valued for 1 year 20% and the properties that just got valued would get zero.

These are just examples for hypothesis, in reality I believe a lot more investigation goes into working out what housing markets in different areas are doing before an equalisation formula can be hammered out.

As I keep trying to say though - it's only a proxy and it's the only one that would work so we're stuck with it. If you don't want to pay your local authority it's easy - sell your house and move into a rental.

[MadDuck]

Best con-job Auckland ever did!

Not wrong. From Ellerslie to Sarf Orkland to Christchurch How the heck didnt they see that coming?

Really? Can't see how that works - FBT isn't a good or service. Its a tax to make up for an employee getting a tax-free benefit like a company car.

Actually I think FBT sucks anyway.

Yes GST is payable on Fringe Benefits. It gets a company mostly with vehicles available for private use. We are suggesting bicycles to our sales reps

[piston broke]

3 year cycle gets mitigated by the supply of equalisation data by Land Registration or QV doesn't it? That way properties that haven't been valued for 2 years might get a 40%+ on their calc, a property that hasn't been valued for 1 year 20% and the properties that just got valued would get zero.

These are just examples for hypothesis, in reality I believe a lot more investigation goes into working out what housing markets in different areas are doing before an equalisation formula can be hammered out.

As I keep trying to say though - it's only a proxy and it's the only one that would work so we're stuck with it. If you don't want to pay your local authority it's easy - sell your house and move into a rental.

i guess that's why my rates have gone up 60+% in 2 yrs,
damn sure my valuation hasn't gone up the same

[rwh]

Winston makes a good point about poll tax - this was attempted in Britain and was the direct cause of the downfall of the Conservative Government. The Tory party have never recovered and probably never will - this ultra right methodology of local taxation handed a free reign of power to the left - ironic but it got the bastards out of Scotland so all good :

I've just been reading about this. Apparently one of the effects of the poll tax was that those least able to afford it - mostly Labour voters - in many cases avoided it, or attempted to, by dropping off the electoral roll. Unfortunately, this meant that they couldn't help vote the Conservatives out ...

Jim (or anyone else who knows) - did Labour get in next election after the poll tax, or did it take longer than that?

Richard

[McJim]

Jim (or anyone else who knows) - did Labour get in next election after the poll tax, or did it take longer than that?Richard

Long story (I don't know if I can be bothered writing it since no fucker sems to have bothered reading the full explanation I gave on page fuckin 2 of this thread bastards)

Tories (conservative party/blue team/neo nazis...call them what you will) decided that a rich man should pay no more for his local authority amenities than the poor man since they didn't pay different amounts for milk. They then passed law for "Community Charge" in Scotland alone (which contravened the Union of The Crowns agreement which stated that no government nor head of state could pass a tax into law in one part of UK without that same tax being simultaneously passed in all parts of the country).

Scotland, at this time, was still experiencing huge unemployment due to the Tories concentrating all wealth in the South East of the UK by bleeding or destroying pretty much everything north of the Watford Gap.

This meant many people received community charge (poll tax) bills that were a long way out of whack with what they could actually afford. Rebates were hard to get and were not backdatable. The country reacted the only way people with nothing could - they did nothing.

The next year the Tories deemed this a success and passed the same tax in England. this led to riots and some deaths in London in those riots.

The gubberment then said "oh shit" and did a U turn in England leaving the poor Scottish sods to languish under the yoke of this unfair and unpopular tax. They then withdrew it from Scotland, Maggie "Satan" Thatcher resigned, and they appointed John Major coz they wanted rid of him and thought they were gonna lose for sure but then the tories slipped in by a narrow margin.

The next general election saw the Tories goneburger for good though.

[Hitcher]

The rating system is a crude sledge-hammer instrument. An old lady in a good suburb will pay $3000. Her dead-beat nephew in a poor suburb with 5 kids and their hangers-on will pay $1000. Who uses the sewers, roads, water, buses etc more....?

There is truth in what you say. But start a campaign to change it and see what happens...

[Hitcher]

It seems that we're keeping the fat cat's whiskey decanter full whilst they indulge in deligating and scratching their balls.

And who, exactly are these "fat cats"? If you don't like your council's priority projects and the funding levels they want to allocate to service provision, make a submission setting out your arguments.

[McJim]

And who, exactly are these "fat cats"? If you don't like your council's priority projects and the funding levels they want to allocate to service provision, make a submission setting out your arguments.

Fuck yeah, Local Authorities are totally different to KB. Local Authorities actually have to listen to your submissions. KB is just a totalitarian dictatorship with 2 heads.