Crash on Waterloo Quadrant/Princes St (12 March)

[Metalor]

Has anyone else ever read one of these threads and considered that if the members of this 'Auckland Uni SMC' are representative of the university-going population these days, society is pretty much doomed?

Oh, whatever do you mean cupcake?

[Squiggles]

Has anyone else ever read one of these threads and considered that if the members of this 'Auckland Uni SMC' are representative of the university-going population these days, society is pretty much doomed?

Yep, one day i'll be prime minister. Then you're fucked.

[xwhatsit]

Yep, one day i'll be prime minister. Then you're fucked.

However, it will be mandated in every bar and public house that one will forever more be able to buy three Speights for $10.

[Real_Wolf]

um, depending on the meaning behind 'started the maneouver' it can be said that the person who normally would not have to give way does. However in general this only applies to non-traffic light based intersections.

Mostly that is rubbish, but as he said if the cager HAD judged it correctly it is entirely possible there was plenty of space for the turn, and the motorbike merely accelerated.

Either way, no one knows, both could be in the wrong actually

[ehab2weelr]

k, dont give 2 shits what dushy thinks(i lov you mate : ) but this is what i came up with....
the rider was going at 55kph( speed limit is 50), in my book thats not fast at all, he has got an aftermarket exhaust thus as most of us know makes them wee 250s sound like their going at "cracking speed"...
you say we dont need to hear the point of view of the biker...why? the car driver has more right then the biker?? sound a bit 'vehiclesist'..... the biker clams that as he was going straight the car pulled in front of him.... he had no time to react (hes not very experienced so dont compare him to yourself if youv been riding for years) he panicked im guessing and didnt think of avoiding by bending the bike.... happened to me in my early months of riding....
the car was in the wrong lane at the end of the crash.... you dont need to be a uni student to tell whos at fault there.... and yes the rider might not be he best rider out there he may have done some stupid shit but that was years ago....dono any new rider that was a pro on the street from day one....
thats my 5c any more crap you wana throw at me go hard....
mind my spelling...im used to txt....

[ital916]

Certainly not club members! The Safety Officer would not permit that.



There is no legal standing for that statement. And you can never have a "verdict from the police"> They have no power to issue any verdict, and to attempt to do so would be gross constitutional impropriety

well it is a prime example of common sense if not being a legally backed statement. If a car pulls out of a car park space onto the main road and you are a car heading down that road common sense would dictate slowing down slighty, not just belting along at the same speed till you collide with said vehicle.

[ital916]

Has anyone else ever read one of these threads and considered that if the members of this 'Auckland Uni SMC' are representative of the university-going population these days, society is pretty much doomed?

If you are representative of what the older generation new zealander is like, I can see why society is where it is at. We have probably contributed more to society already than you have you silly geriatric, now go take your meds and have nap.

[jrandom]

If you are representative of what the older generation new zealander is like...

Chortlesnort.

I'm 27.

[ital916]

k, dont give 2 shits what dushy thinks(i lov you mate : ) but this is what i came up with....
the rider was going at 55kph( speed limit is 50), in my book thats not fast at all, he has got an aftermarket exhaust thus as most of us know makes them wee 250s sound like their going at "cracking speed"...
you say we dont need to hear the point of view of the biker...why? the car driver has more right then the biker?? sound a bit 'vehiclesist'..... the biker clams that as he was going straight the car pulled in front of him.... he had no time to react (hes not very experienced so dont compare him to yourself if youv been riding for years) he panicked im guessing and didnt think of avoiding by bending the bike.... happened to me in my early months of riding....
the car was in the wrong lane at the end of the crash.... you dont need to be a uni student to tell whos at fault there.... and yes the rider might not be he best rider out there he may have done some stupid shit but that was years ago....dono any new rider that was a pro on the street from day one....
thats my 5c any more crap you wana throw at me go hard....
mind my spelling...im used to txt....

I didnt say we didnt need to know the bikers view but we cant neglect the drivers view, a view which we cant access obviously which leaves big holes. Always two sides to a story.

[ital916]

Chortlesnort.

I'm 27.

, really........my havent we made a few mistakes already...and at such a young age

[jrandom]

, really........my havent we made a few mistakes already...and at such a young age

It's amazing what you can fit in if you put your mind to it.

[ital916]

um, depending on the meaning behind 'started the maneouver' it can be said that the person who normally would not have to give way does. However in general this only applies to non-traffic light based intersections.

Mostly that is rubbish, but as he said if the cager HAD judged it correctly it is entirely possible there was plenty of space for the turn, and the motorbike merely accelerated.

Either way, no one knows, both could be in the wrong actually

started the manouver means seeing the way is clear pulling out and a vehicle that is then coming accross you performing that manouver must give way. Like when vehicles parallel park, revers, pull out, turn into roads etc.

Next time I see a car pulling out im going to use my right of way and just smash into him., no worries, Im the biker, I'll be alright cos Im an angel.. might be sore though *and this is in no way a stab at the biker who crashed, my sympathies with you*

[PirateJafa]

Certainly not club members! The Safety Officer would not permit that.

I have my supply of wet bus tickets standing by, never you fear.

Has anyone else ever read one of these threads and considered that if the members of this 'Auckland Uni SMC' are representative of the university-going population these days, society is pretty much doomed?

Not really. This sort of drivel is pretty much par for the course for the entirety of Kiwibiker.

Hell, Skyryder posts worse trash up on a daily basis.

However, it will be mandated in every bar and public house that one will forever more be able to buy three Speights for $10.

And great nachoes for $5.

[Ragingrob]

Who knows the full story, but it only takes leaving your left indicator on to have a car pull in front of you. I can picture that happening very easily at that intersection.

[motorbyclist]

If I was in a car and saw the bike coming straight but decided I have plenty of time to turn. In that space of me starting my turn If the bike has decided to speed up to catch the light, he is running late for mm2 etc assuming that I will give way, I would not think of myself as at fault. He has right of way but I have STARTED MY MANOUVER and as such he must give way.

please, notify me of where and when you intend to travel from now on.

if you misjudge a gap and pull into oncoming traffic, that's YOUR fault. party A is not magically required to give way because party B decided they had enough room but misjudged it. sure there are cases where cars pull from parking spots near blind corners, but then the other driver will have been travelling faster than they can see . if A gets hit while parallel parking, it will count as being rear ended.

and we are assuming party A actually looked.