Crash on Waterloo Quadrant/Princes St (12 March)

**motorbyclist** · 18th March 2009, 19:23

STOP USING MATHS that you don't understand, or i'll be forced to painfully explain the errors in your working/assumptions and then form a model of the accident myself with all possible outcomes and maybe even the probability of one party being at fault

Originally Posted by Drider87

I meant down the drivers side, near the front as in i.e. it wasnt a direct head on. My browser was displaying only a thumbnail of it the size it is shown in the thread. Hence I really cant tell what the car is like in the pic.

of course it isn't directly head on - the car rotated slightly to turn, and the biker may have swerved slightly to avoid, giving an impact force directed towards and down the drivers side of the car. looks exactly as accident was described to me

**Metalor** · 18th March 2009, 21:34

Holy shit, just sw the pic. Looks like he must have been going pretty quick to do THAT much damage! Either that or he was riding a car, haha!

**Real_Wolf** · 18th March 2009, 22:11

Was a honda, so their built pretty solid. That being said, the crash was almost head on, so both velocities were against each other, and so the difference, and thus the momentum transferred was about the maximum it could be in a crash.

Also, my math wasn't bad, all I did was say that if both travelled at hooning pace, of about 60km/h each, that they had 1.2 seconds to react. At a slower speed, of say motorbike at 50 and car at 30, 1.8 seconds

**Metalor** · 18th March 2009, 22:47

True... I thought the car was mostly stopped to make a right hand turn though? 'Scuze my ignorance if I'm wrong... couldn't be bothered reading through the whole thread!

**Real_Wolf** · 19th March 2009, 09:04

well thats the thing, if we were to assume that the car was stopped, then the bike must have been speeding excessively, to the point of over 80km/h, or else we would definetely see some skid marks

**aewilliam** · 19th March 2009, 11:19

Originally Posted by Real_Wolf

Also, my math wasn't bad

Not to steal the limelight RW, but methinks twas MY maths that was flawed...

Bugger for the rider's case...esp if the variable of combined velocity has car's factor of the velocity being 0...

**ehab2weelr** · 19th March 2009, 20:19

yea hes allgud now, they fixed parts of him but still some parts to go...hahah he can get out of bed now but not yet walk tho...

and the cars now days are made to take impact in such a way that it reduces the force of impact on the people involved....so the impact looks much worse then what it really is.... its smart..

**motorbyclist** · 19th March 2009, 22:18

well it's smart for the guy who has to sell them a new car cause the whole thing folded up on itself after being subjected to a light breeze

Originally Posted by Real_Wolf

well thats the thing, if we were to assume that the car was stopped, then the bike must have been speeding excessively, to the point of over 80km/h, or else we would definetely see some skid marks

what if he did a proper emergency stop and didn't skid? what if he swerved? what if his tyres don't leave marks? i know mine dont.

**ital916** · 20th March 2009, 05:17

Originally Posted by motorbyclist

STOP USING MATHS that you don't understand, or i'll be forced to painfully explain the errors in your working/assumptions and then form a model of the accident myself with all possible outcomes and maybe even the probability of one party being at fault

of course it isn't directly head on - the car rotated slightly to turn, and the biker may have swerved slightly to avoid, giving an impact force directed towards and down the drivers side of the car. looks exactly as accident was described to me

Because you are ohhh so much better at maths and will create a model that you can explain in laymans terms, taking into account so many factors that you could probably find out who was in the wrong. Why the hell do we need the scu when we have you.

I wont comment further on the photo *which I have now managed to increase in size lol*

**motorbyclist** · 20th March 2009, 13:32

Originally Posted by Drider87

Why the hell do we need the scu when we have you.

i often ask the same question myself

**jith** · 4th April 2009, 13:41

i was the guy riding the white CBR 250RR that crashed on princess st on 11th of march at 11:45am.
i was going up princess st straight through the lights... i had a green light... so i went through.
there was a black 2006 honda accord euro coming down princess st and turning into waterloo quadrant.... he was parked in the middle of the intersection and was meant to give way to me... but as soon as i entered the intersection the guy stepped on his gas and cut me off and head on collided me!! i only had time to cut my throttle off and brace for impact.
i got throwen 20 meters and landed on my back on the side walk!!

injuries: broke my pelvice open, fractured left acetabulum, dislocated left knee by ripping 4 of the 5 ligaments in the knee, injured saphanous nerve in the left leg and ruptured the popliteal artery in the left knee.
also got lasarations in the groin that went down to my bone and injured a ligament in the right wrist.
all surgeories are gone except wrist, which is next week.
expecting to be back to my normal walking pace withing 4 to 6 months!!
thanks for all the support guys!
ride safe.
peace.
jith.

**portokiwi** · 4th April 2009, 14:07

So how is the bike???

**portokiwi** · 4th April 2009, 14:08

Is the cager getting charged?

**jith** · 4th April 2009, 14:26

for all u idiots who love to assume things... yes i was wearing a helmet, and a riding jacket with pading, and a backpack with a spinal brace (metal rods) and full jeans and laced up leather shoes... so hope that shuts all of you up who thinks i ride without a helmet!

and NO i havent had major crashes before....but yes i did fall off my bike around a corner 'cas i caught the gritt....

and for all of youz who think i was speeding.... i WAS NOT!
the car was parked in the middle of the intersection waiting to turn to his right... my left, into waterloo quadrant.

there were no cars on my lane...i was the only person!! so NO i was NOT riding along side some car so that da dude didnt see me.
da only cars on ma side of the road were the ones on the left lane signaling to turn left into waterloo quadrant! i was right in the middle of my lane, the lane which is designated for trafic going straight through the lights!

and no i was NOT speeding!!
i came up the hill to the lights at about 45kmph and it was a green light and since there were no cars infront of me and since da Accord was parked in the middle of the intersectiong WAITING (giving way to me) i opened my throttle and entered the intersection..... as soon as i entered the intersection the guy in the Accord steped on his gas at full force!
wen i collided with him i was doing no more than 55kmph (and if u fucks dont believe that talk to the cops.. thats what they reckon to0)!

i didnt have time to break or do any of that fancy shit u guys talk about.... cz da dude in da car unexpectedly stepped on the gas and took me by surprise!

so yea thats that!!
i'd appriciate it if people stop assuming shit if you weren't there yourself to see the crash happen!!

**ital916** · 4th April 2009, 15:19

Originally Posted by jith

for all u idiots who love to assume things... yes i was wearing a helmet, and a riding jacket with pading, and a backpack with a spinal brace (metal rods) and full jeans and laced up leather shoes... so hope that shuts all of you up who thinks i ride without a helmet!

and NO i havent had major crashes before....but yes i did fall off my bike around a corner 'cas i caught the gritt....

and for all of youz who think i was speeding.... i WAS NOT!
the car was parked in the middle of the intersection waiting to turn to his right... my left, into waterloo quadrant.

there were no cars on my lane...i was the only person!! so NO i was NOT riding along side some car so that da dude didnt see me.
da only cars on ma side of the road were the ones on the left lane signaling to turn left into waterloo quadrant! i was right in the middle of my lane, the lane which is designated for trafic going straight through the lights!

and no i was NOT speeding!!
i came up the hill to the lights at about 45kmph and it was a green light and since there were no cars infront of me and since da Accord was parked in the middle of the intersectiong WAITING (giving way to me) i opened my throttle and entered the intersection..... as soon as i entered the intersection the guy in the Accord steped on his gas at full force!
wen i collided with him i was doing no more than 55kmph (and if u fucks dont believe that talk to the cops.. thats what they reckon to0)!

i didnt have time to break or do any of that fancy shit u guys talk about.... cz da dude in da car unexpectedly stepped on the gas and took me by surprise!

so yea thats that!!
i'd appriciate it if people stop assuming shit if you weren't there yourself to see the crash happen!!

Im glad your alright but shut the fuck up. Have a nice day.

I still want to talk to the car driver...maybe hes on a kiwdrivers sort of forum.