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    Quote Originally Posted by Blakamin
    but ya dont... any nuclear material bought from aussie has to go back to aussie... they made that rule years ago...
    But ya do, because once they use the fuel, the containment and ground its housed on has to be perm. covered over with one huge slab of concrete. Radiation has this tendancy to leech into the surrounding materials.

    Same with fusion as well. While the actually process doesnt generate much in the way of radiation, the containment device pretty much glows.

    And since the containment device sits on the ground, all those worms start wondering how their new found legs work
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    Quote Originally Posted by ktulu
    I am no expert at all on this (I'm a fencer for fucks sake) but whenever I drive over that little bridge on the motorway between takanini and papakura and see that water flowing under it hard out from the tidal basin on the east I am sure that we could harness that enegy.
    I mentioned this to my girlfriend and my brother but the both laughed, does anyone know anything about this or maybe creating power from waves and stuff?
    You're on to it man.

    This site has some good explanations and isn't too preachy:

    http://www.darvill.clara.net/altenerg/tidal.htm
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    Again, no expert here but, I would prefer that NZ took an innovative approach to the power supply issue.
    Surely a combination of wind, Solar and wave energy could be harnessed to provide clean energy for as long as we have sun, wind and waves.

    Also, I think with a little construction law change all NEW houses could be built with their own solar power roof tiles. (or such-like).
    This could mean that each house bears part of the load for collecting power for NZ.
    When we talk about not wanting big power plants or coal pits, why not consider using our exisiting environment. - Our roofs ....

    The roof, the roof, the roof is for hire....
    Not even with yours!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman

    The roof, the roof, the roof is for hire....
    There's even some good looking ones around now. No obvious geekiness until you get close

    http://www.atlantisenergy.org/sunslates2.html

    Bear in mind though, that there was a chap who recently pointed out that on a NET basis he contributed more to the national grid than he was drawing. Transpower's response was to remove the credit system so private individuals no longer get credits for providing power and you have to pay line rental for your cabling and a minimum "usage" charge, irrespective of whether the line company owes you money or not.
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    I would think that if even 10% of the NZ houses could take care of their own power supply it would be a great start!!

    Is this feasible or am I talking crap ??.. (as usual)
    Not even with yours!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckman
    I would think that if even 10% of the NZ houses could take care of their own power supply it would be a great start!!

    Is this feasible or am I talking crap ??.. (as usual)
    It's a brilliant idea, and under the Kyoto protocol the Govt is supposed to offer tax relief to people who retrofit this to their house or design it into a new build. With this and solar water heaters we could reduce both the total power production required and the amount lost in transmission. 50% of the electricity generated in the Sth Is. is lost in transmisssion. Bit wasteful, eh?
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    What about making solar panels on the top of new houses compulsory - doesn't it only add $5k-$10k onto the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear
    What about making solar panels on the top of new houses compulsory - doesn't it only add $5k-$10k onto the cost?
    Compulsion is a good way to ensure a less than adequate result.

    Next you'll be suggesting 5 year plans
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    Just having another think about this, if you boiled your hot water cylinder you could drive a steam turbine as well. Excellent for those wetback fireplaces, or for hot summer days where the solar water heater overdoes things. Hmmm so many sources of energy.
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    It stinks that you can produce power put it into the national grid and at the end of the day they still hit you with a line charge.

    There should be more support for people who work to save power or add things to there own house to be more self efficent. An architect I was talking to a couple of weeks back is building a house with solar cells in the walls as well.

    Maybe the answer to the power problem isnt big stations, but every house and factory having its system which contributes to lessening the need for more large scale production.

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    It has NO military purpose at all.
    tend to disagree here, but I suppose the war ended itself really?

    It stinks that you can produce power put it into the national grid and at the end of the day they still hit you with a line charge.
    Disconnect the line and become totally self sufficient, they couldn't charge you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    Wouldn't want to go swimming near by

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    Quote Originally Posted by alarumba
    Wouldn't want to go swimming near by
    well in the places they would be placed I wouldn't want to either!! They only spin at about 20rpm so slow enough not to damage fishes

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    tend to disagree here, but I suppose the war ended itself really?
    That particular dual usage was Political in nature and outcome. There was no Military need to use it. From a Logistics perspective Japan had lost the war 12 months previously. The US and allies could have sat back and let the Japanese home islands starve, but the war in China would have continued, and the Soviet Union had huge forces gathering on the Sino-Soviet border. A Soviet victory in Northern China with an increasingly belligerent Stalin in charge of the USSR would have created an even bigger united Communist Bloc for the "Western" allies to deal with.

    Plus any US government that let conscript troops invade a country with a fight to the death mentality, and the subsequent number of casualties, wouldn't be voted back into power. You'll note that Truman was voted back in to office, and the US/USSR standoff was mainly performed in Europe with "sideshows" in Asia.

    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX
    Disconnect the line and become totally self sufficient, they couldn't charge you then.
    You still get charged the basic fees.
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