Dumb idea? Free sponsor offer.

**Tony.OK** · 12th March 2009, 14:51

Ok here's an idea I've been thinking about.
I've not had much luck really finding any decent ( read cash ) sponsorship and I'm at the stage where I've pretty much accepted the fact I'll be paying for my own racing whenever I can afford it.
My idea was to offer "Free signage" on my bike etc......Free sponsorship if ya like.

I think I've got a reasonable record in my short racing career, and try to be proffesional..................I did say try Eddie!

The way I see it is if I can do something for someone then maybe one day the favour may come back.

**svs** · 12th March 2009, 15:52

I'd say you are selling yourself short.

By all means carry a logo or a sticker for someone that has done something for you or a friend (LG anyone?) but I don't believe that having a logo plastered over the side of you're bike would make you look any more professional. nice clean paint job and the bike will look great.

There was also the issue in BSB (not entirely sure it is relevant here but..) where one of the teams basically couldn't get title sponsorship so gave away the the title sponsorship for a very reduced price. Now it's getting harder for other teams to get the money they wanted because they said look we can get xxx for yyy dollars.

**Tony.OK** · 12th March 2009, 16:05

Originally Posted by svs

I'd say you are selling yourself short.

By all means carry a logo or a sticker for someone that has done something for you or a friend (LG anyone?) but I don't believe that having a logo plastered over the side of you're bike would make you look any more professional. nice clean paint job and the bike will look great.

There was also the issue in BSB (not entirely sure it is relevant here but..) where one of the teams basically couldn't get title sponsorship so gave away the the title sponsorship for a very reduced price. Now it's getting harder for other teams to get the money they wanted because they said look we can get xxx for yyy dollars.

Its not about looking professional at all Phil, just getting a name out there.
I see your point about xxx for yyy.
I'm not a young beginner so not sure how long I can do this for, and at the moment the outlook financially is looking pretty crap, so if someone can get something of use and get interested in our great sport then they might be prepared to front up next time........................just a thought.

**svs** · 12th March 2009, 16:17

Well then you already got the people who look after you in your sig. FFM Helmets, Ericksen Honda, Metzeler.

**R6_kid:Me** · 12th March 2009, 16:42

SVS is on the money, a similar thing has happened with the jobs of Airline pilots in the US. Basically some pilots sold themselves short paywise to get 'better' jobs, and the subsequent effect is that everyone else is now working those jobs for crap money when they should be getting in the order of two to three times the pay they are on.

If people don't want to pay for their stuff to be on your bike then surely they aren't genuinely interested are they? Isn't genuine interest and support what you want from a sponsor?

**Gubb** · 12th March 2009, 16:45

I'll give you $50 to put a photo of my face on the side of your bike.

Your competitors will be horrified at the distraction.

**scuzeme** · 12th March 2009, 17:07

I cant really see why its hard to get sponsership there are enough business owners and companies out there that enjoy motorsport i think its up to us to just become as inventive as we can in selling what we do to potential sponsers hell i dont even think you need to be that good a rider really.
My own Company basically finances my racing but i get free signwriting from Moa Signwriters , great deals from Forbes and Davies on tyres and helmets boots leathers etc reduced cost parts and labour from TSS Red Baron in Lower Hutt etc.
Tony get a picture of your bike side on and paint shop the fairing blank than sub divide the fairing into areas for advertising exposure and put a cost to each square then get off your arse and go visit some suppliers and sell your space on your bike i guarentee you could get sponsership that way.
Some people are scared that if the commit to sponsership it will be open ended but if you are just asking for a one off payment for advertising space alot of people will go for it.
I reckon that even someone like me whos not that competitive could get $5000 per side just in placing logos on the bike you just have to do the leg work and put yourself before the right people.
Dont email
Dont send Letters
Dont post here
Go out there and find it mate thats what all succesful people do.

Dont get me wrong dude im not "having a go"......well maybe i am just use your initiative and dont wait for sponsers to come rolling in becuase they wont unless your a top rider in the Nationals Comp mate.

**piston broke** · 12th March 2009, 17:13

so what sorta money are you talking about per year to get a reasonable size logo on your bike?

**CHOPPA** · 12th March 2009, 17:36

Id say its a good idea, i went to a few trackdays with Willie and James relized they had a bike shopish started buying my stuff from them and tried promoting there business just cause they were good c*%ts and in return they gave me a bike!

If you can do something for someones business and they see some reward they are more likely to help you out in return. If you say give me 5k and ill put a sticker on my bike then its gonna be a bit hard

**Tony.OK** · 12th March 2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by scuzeme

I cant really see why its hard to get sponsership there are enough business owners and companies out there that enjoy motorsport i think its up to us to just become as inventive as we can in selling what we do to potential sponsers hell i dont even think you need to be that good a rider really.
My own Company basically finances my racing but i get free signwriting from Moa Signwriters , great deals from Forbes and Davies on tyres and helmets boots leathers etc reduced cost parts and labour from TSS Red Baron in Lower Hutt etc.
Tony get a picture of your bike side on and paint shop the fairing blank than sub divide the fairing into areas for advertising exposure and put a cost to each square then get off your arse and go visit some suppliers and sell your space on your bike i guarentee you could get sponsership that way.
Some people are scared that if the commit to sponsership it will be open ended but if you are just asking for a one off payment for advertising space alot of people will go for it.
I reckon that even someone like me whos not that competitive could get $5000 per side just in placing logos on the bike you just have to do the leg work and put yourself before the right people.
Dont email
Dont send Letters
Dont post here
Go out there and find it mate thats what all succesful people do.

Dont get me wrong dude im not "having a go"......well maybe i am just use your initiative and dont wait for sponsers to come rolling in becuase they wont unless your a top rider in the Nationals Comp mate.

Its not like I haven't tried alot of those things dude, I've also annoyed the shit out of any friend or aquaintence I could think of, maybe its different in a smaller city...........I dunno?

Originally Posted by piston broke

so what sorta money are you talking about per year to get a reasonable size logo on your bike?

Depends on how big and where I guess, there's also my van windows to consider as well.

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Id say its a good idea, i went to a few trackdays with Willie and James relized they had a bike shopish started buying my stuff from them and tried promoting there business just cause they were good c*%ts and in return they gave me a bike!

If you can do something for someones business and they see some reward they are more likely to help you out in return. If you say give me 5k and ill put a sticker on my bike then its gonna be a bit hard

Hahaa I can't see my local giving me a bike..............You'd be in trouble if they did though mate........you seen those new Blade's smoke screen hahhaaa

**sinfull** · 12th March 2009, 18:24

Originally Posted by Tony.OK

Its not like I haven't tried alot of those things dude, I've also annoyed the shit out of any friend or aquaintence I could think of, maybe its different in a smaller city...........I dunno?

Depends on how big and where I guess, there's also my van windows to consider as well.

Hahaa I can't see my local giving me a bike..............You'd be in trouble if they did though mate........you seen those new Blade's smoke screen hahhaaa

Stick a metzeler sticker on there bro ! If your local bike shop does ya some good deals stick theirs on, if they don't, move shop ! (ya think they might notice) SVS is right, every lil thing helps right ? cheap helmet put a sticker on ya van !
If ya work out every person who helps a little bit you'll run out of room on the van, let alone the bike !
I might be a couple of seconds (count slowly) down on your times man but in the same boat !
Hell i have absolutely plastered me mates business on the bike just to get him to come watch me !
You think you have issues lol

**sinfull** · 12th March 2009, 18:28

Originally Posted by Gubb

I'll give you $50 to put a photo of my face on the side of your bike.

Your competitors will be horrified at the distraction.

Carefull mate, he might be on the same track as you sometime soon !
Theres something not right with the thought of you riding beside him down the back straight just so ya can see your reflection !

**Tony.OK** · 12th March 2009, 18:48

Originally Posted by sinfull

Stick a metzeler sticker on there bro ! If your local bike shop does ya some good deals stick theirs on, if they don't, move shop ! (ya think they might notice) SVS is right, every lil thing helps right ? cheap helmet put a sticker on ya van !
If ya work out every person who helps a little bit you'll run out of room on the van, let alone the bike !
I might be a couple of seconds (count s l o w l y) down on your times man but in the same boat !
Hell i have absolutely plastered me mates business on the bike just to get him to come watch me !
You think you have issues lol

Done.........done and did it bro..................

**sinfull** · 12th March 2009, 18:54

Originally Posted by Tony.OK

Done.........done and did it bro..................

Oi !! No need to stretch it out more lol !
I'll get to race ya one day ya know !!!! Ya slow down as ya get older ya know...........Edit: oh wait (faster yeah and bolder i meant i left out a b there)

**CHOPPA** · 12th March 2009, 19:05

Originally Posted by Tony.OK

Its not like I haven't tried alot of those things dude, I've also annoyed the shit out of any friend or aquaintence I could think of, maybe its different in a smaller city...........I dunno?

Depends on how big and where I guess, there's also my van windows to consider as well.

Hahaa I can't see my local giving me a bike..............You'd be in trouble if they did though mate........you seen those new Blade's smoke screen hahhaaa

Thats the problem... You cant just do something for someone to get something in return, you have to do it because you want to do it. I honestly wouldnt have dreamed of getting it.

Not sure why i got the LG thing but way before any LG stuff had come up and Ed had just got his sponsorship i offered switch to LG and buy all my air con units through him so it showed his sponsors he was earning his keep, there was no motive behind it for me just that i saw LG were doing a good thing and i wanted to help ed out, the favour has been returned tenfold....