Recession????

[White trash]

You're working with an industry that is one of the primary producers of the trillions of fake dollars that have disappeared over night.

No I'm not. I'm working in an industry that freights the bits and pieces around the world to BUILD the industry that produces the fake dollars. But I see your point.

[James Deuce]

No I'm not. I'm working in an industry that freights the bits and pieces around the world to BUILD the industry that produces the fake dollars. But I see your point.

That's why I said working WITH. Pay attention.

[White trash]

That's why I said working WITH. Pay attention.

Roger. Sorry sir, wont happen again.

[James Deuce]

Roger. Sorry sir, wont happen again.

Homo.............

[White trash]

That the best you've got, you funny little round man you. I expected more to be honest

[discotex]

The words "you ain't seen nothin yet" spring to mind.

Around 40% of the value of the stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial has been wiped in less than 6 months and there's no sign that the slide is over. They're usually considered the big and safe stocks.

The US economy is totally fucked. The only reason they're not talking about a depression is they don't want to admit it's looking likely and scare everyone into one.

Two factors could make it even more serious. Oil shortages (if we confirm we're past peak oil) and climate change (which could kill the insurance industry for a start). Given that this "recession" will probably last another 2 years at minimum there's a good chance that a perfect storm to develop.

On the plus side there are some serious bargains in property and stocks to be had in the nearish future if you arm yourself with knowledge and cash savings (or at least pay down personal debt).

[puddytat]

United we stand.....divided, we're nothing. Bring on the Revolution.
How come I, living under the official poverty line,with no children , dont get a tax cut?
Im not on a benefit either.
And my wanker boss is now playing the whose expendable game,as well as using the tough times scenario to compromise safety?
I see very little in the way of him compromising, more that we (workers) are having to dance more to his tune, with the guillotine of layoffs hanging up above. Hopefully his Halo will slip down & choke him...
The Recession? Karma I reckon for this life of excess weve been leading, or should I say the Fat Cats have been leading @ our expense, thats fuelled our desire for endless ammounts of cheap crap.Payback time.

[peasea]

July 14 is not that far away. Bastille Day, we could learn a lot from that.

[jonbuoy]

Yeah but a lot of this is our "own" doing as consumers - companies were willing to do buy now pay laters/110% mortgages/0% finance for 5 years because we were willing to spend money we hadn't earned yet. But then they're supposed to be the parents and slap us on the hands and tell us to save up our pocket money first.

[Headbanger]

The question is....are we in a recession or are we being told this to create a sense of panic, and there for create an excuse for the upper class to protect the upper class and their fortunes?


Your views please:

The job losses and shrinking market and lack of available funding is very real. As to this being a conspiracy to protect the upper class, Clutching at straws there, But have no doubt the upper class will use any situation to their advantage, Thats how you get to be rich, and that's how you stay rich.

[Headbanger]

And my wanker boss is now playing the whose expendable game,as well as using the tough times scenario to compromise safety?

You are entitled (as is everyone) to two paid days of training a year, You can use these to do a government funded site safety rep course, This enables you to serve a notice on your boss in regards to safety issues he won't rectify or unsafe practises that continue in your place of work.

This new found power finishes there but it makes a paper trail about an issue and if someone gets hurt and its proven your boss knew about it he will get his arse kicked.The next option is to ring up OSH, which you should do if you are of the genuine belief that someone is going to get hurt.

And if you play your cards right it can secure your job, Be a foolish man who fired someone who tried to look after worker saftey, An unfair dismissel would be easy to pin on him.

[puddytat]

Yeah but a lot of this is our "own" doing as consumers - companies were willing to do buy now pay laters/110% mortgages/0% finance for 5 years because we were willing to spend money we hadn't earned yet. But then they're supposed to be the parents and slap us on the hands and tell us to save up our pocket money first.

I totally agree....we've gone from actually working for what we want ,saving for it & buying it when we have saved enough, to not working for it ,buying it when we dont have the money for it & thereby basically selling our independance & freedoms to those who have supplied us with the means.Hardly any of us have a choice nowadays.Sometimes "More is Less"
My solution to fixing the worlds economy? Invest in the thing that enables us to live....the Planet. Its got to be the largest growth industry around.
Idealistic....you bet!!

[Headbanger]

Yeah but a lot of this is our "own" doing as consumers -

Definitely, But, The banks are cunts. These lower level "managers" are nothing but sales people who receive a commission for lending you money. Hell our scumbag "personal manager" made appointments where she tried to talk us into borrowing money against our house we had just bought because she could see we still had some cash left over each week.,new car,boat, an extension to the house,Go ahead, You can afford it, These are our rates, It only stopped when I told her to fuck herself.

Same goes with the credit card, Bank rings up offers me 10 grand and starts describing how hot point rewards work...Spend spend spend,Tick, tick, Tick. Worry about it another day. Why?, because I just broke my damn arse and paid the fucker off, They can't handle that, I am meant to be in debt.

Thats the advice they give, Plenty of people are lured by how easy it is or know no better and those people are are going to be fucked real soon.

Hell, I went to the bank to organise an eftpos account and I walked out after they tried to convince me to borrow 40 grand for my company, a company that was set up for $3000 and was ticking over nicely.

Motherfuckers, I'd love to see the banks collapse but it would fuck up too much shit.

[puddytat]

You are entitled (as is everyone) to two paid days of training a year, You can use these to do a government funded site safety rep course, This enables you to serve a notice on your boss in regards to safety issues he won't rectify or unsafe practises that continue in your place of work.

This new found power finishes there but it makes a paper trail about an issue and if someone gets hurt and its proven your boss knew about it he will get his arse kicked.The next option is to ring up OSH, which you should do if you are of the genuine belief that someone is going to get hurt.

And if you play your cards right it can secure your job, Be a foolish man who fired someone who tried to look after worker saftey, An unfair dismissel would be easy to pin on him.

cheers for that....I didnt know about the site rep course. OSh has been informed & just waiting for the shit to hit the fan
I feel pretty wank about it,but we've all decided that enough is enough.
As "we" are required to sign off the business everyday in the safety log(
& there are issues that have been ongoing for months with absolutely no sign of management doing anything about it,"we" have decided that we're not going to swing for it because of "them".
Sorry about getting off topic
As you were....

[trump-lady]

Im overly paronoid prob....when I was studying in the states 5 years ago a lecture was on Agender 21. Now back then it was laughable, from what I am seeing in the USA they are beginning to implement it and using this "recession" to cover up what they are doing. This is perhaps a biased you tube synopsis but it makes you think...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJp0P6eggXU

should I start a thread on this?