Life and Stuff

**RiderInBlack** · 2nd May 2005, 12:45

Originally Posted by alarumba

Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying

Reading that makes me sad.
Just some advise from someone who used to think like that. Change your thinking before it kills you. Thinking like this nearly ended my life. You always have the power to choose the way in how you feel about life. Noone else can do it for you. Life by the way is not "Out To Get You". Life just IS. Whether you enjoy it or not is up to YOU. Stop and take stock of all the things in life you have been lucky enough to have done. Do not dwell on the things you wish to have done but feel you are unable to. This just increases your self pity and does nothing that would improve your chances having the life you wish for.

You cann't alway get what you want,
But if you try, sometimes,
You Get What You Need!

(Good old Rolling Stones)

**Maximus** · 2nd May 2005, 13:20

Originally Posted by alarumba

Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying

When I read this post it almost made me cry. Dude seriously if this is the way you feel then tell someone get some fucking help. Do you know what you will do to your friends/family if you did actually do something to end your life?! If you really feel this way get some help PLEASE.

**Paul in NZ** · 2nd May 2005, 13:22

My old mum always said....

"Son. You can have anything and be anybody you want in life.... You just can't have everything you want."

In other words, ya gotta make some choices and learn to be happy inside them. Sure change your mind, no problems but focus on what you really really want...

I remember a couple a few years back that have 2 ferraris... The guy was just an ordinary joe but that wad their dream so they have done without nearly every little luxury in life to achieve it.... And they are happy...

Genuine depression is a nasty beast but I know the fuel it runs on. Envy and greed. If you want something and it is relatively sensible and you are prepared to do everything to get it... It can be done... Aint that fantastic!

As for life.... You live in an age of miracles.... Honestly, every day something else amazing happens. REJOICE in it and don't join the haters and joy suckers. We have too many of those as it is.... Look at me... I'm a type 1 diabetic. Less than a 100 years ago I would be dead right now.... Probably slowly and horribly... Thats a couple of generations.... Far out! I can think a zillion ways my life could be better but I can't forget that....

Go for it... Lifes a peach....

**Lou Girardin** · 2nd May 2005, 14:44

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Genuine depression is a nasty beast but I know the fuel it runs on. Envy and greed.

Not with clinical depression. The causes are internal not external. That's the insidious thing about depression, the feeling is inexplicable. Sometimes the sufferer doesn't even know why they feel so bad.

**pyrocam** · 2nd May 2005, 14:56

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Not with clinical depression. The causes are internal not external. That's the insidious thing about depression, the feeling is inexplicable. Sometimes the sufferer doesn't even know why they feel so bad.

a good night on the town to too much money in your pocket does quite well for me. I clicked bottle and ignore cos I thought you meant 'the bottle' but hey oh well. we all know alchohol isnt the way to solve problems, but it sure changes your perception of problem, taking your mind of it is hard sometimes and going out can help alleviate whatever your thinking about to the point when you forget that your meant to be depressed. and voila.

well. it works for me. in no way do I condone binge drinking in any shape or form to anyone.

**jazbug5** · 2nd May 2005, 14:56

True that. Although in many ways what Paul says can be true for many, with 'genuine' depression, it ain't so. The least materialistic person I know is my father. He suffers from Bipolar; he (when ill) worries about the state of the world, not whether he has a flash car or not.

**mikey** · 2nd May 2005, 15:14

Quote:
Originally Posted by alarumba
Life? It sucks. All you can rely on is living miserably then dying

i dont read any suicidial ideation into that but......

lifes a shitter, full of shit.

when you get close to leaving you would be surprised how many people you affect an you start to feel guilty leaving, right bitch life is. stuck in a shitter we are.

**Motoracer** · 2nd May 2005, 15:18

Originally Posted by mikey

i dont read any suicidial ideation into that but......

lifes a shitter, full of shit.

when you get close to leaving you would be surprised how many people you affect an you start to feel guilty leaving, right bitch life is. stuck in a shitter we are.

Someone always has it worst off man. When you feel down and shit, you really have to look at others who are less fortunate and realise then maybe appreciate what you have.

**Slipstream** · 2nd May 2005, 15:43

Originally Posted by Motoracer

Someone always has it worst off man.

"....And for one moment, think about that last guy...no one has it worse than that guy...."

Sure it is from a Arlo Gutherie skit, but one day, I actually thought about that last guy.... what makes someone the last guy?
There are people who are financially worse off than me, but they are happier...just like I know some who are richer than me but I'm happier. I see some with no kids wishing they had my life and some that don't. I see some with more kids who wished they had my life and some that don't. There will always be someone worse off than you...but there will be always someone worse off than them too....

makes ya think....

**mikey** · 2nd May 2005, 15:48

advice from my shrink

Originally Posted by Motoracer

When you feel down and shit, .

take YOUR FUCKING PILLS

**Zed** · 2nd May 2005, 15:49

Originally Posted by mikey

...when you get close to leaving you would be surprised how many people you affect an you start to feel guilty leaving...

How most *spiritually profound* my fellow KB'r!

**mikey** · 2nd May 2005, 15:57

Originally Posted by Zed

How most *spiritually profound* my fellow KB'r!

want to come an get spritiual profoundment?

it involves motorbikes, policeman, trains, psychiatrists, an a good deal of mind altering substances

you either end up in loony bin or pushing diasies from 6 feet at taita cemetery

**ManDownUnder** · 2nd May 2005, 16:00

When I feel down I tend to bottle it up... try to deal with it alone - and experience is eventually teaching me that's not a good thing to do.

I know I care a lot for the problems of others and I never fail to be amazed when thewy care for mine. It's a reciprocal thing - it works.

Talking through them, getting the perspective of another and getting rid of my own depressed/scared/angry blinkers is what is needed although there is a lot of truth in the fact that when you feel miserable... you actually want to stay miserable for a bit.

I think it's the brain's way of someone working through whatever it is...

Time heals all... wounds that are physical and mental (generally) lessen with time. I've been up, and I've been down.

I'm also been blessed to have a wife and friends that stand alongside me at every turn. I think it's part of the human condition really...

ahem... as you were...

**ManDownUnder** · 2nd May 2005, 16:06

Originally Posted by ktulu

Other than that, as I was told the other night (and no I am not maori) "kia kaha, be strong, walk tall"

Not being Maori either - I didn't come across that phrase until I was into myt 30's... but the more I hear it, and understand it, the more I really like it.

MDU

**Lou Girardin** · 3rd May 2005, 11:43

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Not being Maori either - I didn't come across that phrase until I was into myt 30's... but the more I hear it, and understand it, the more I really like it.

MDU

Shame that their rates of mental illness are so high.
Walk tall, be strong is not the way to deal with it. Asking for help is a good start.