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    I am wondering why they are developing facial recognition software.
    A contract with US gubbinment?
    Something that all ages of the population will use??
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    Well I guess I just never got sucked in to te Apple scam. Sure MP3 players are as comon as much and I must have a few of them. I wouldn't however use iTunes. All the crap it forces on to your computer is best avoided. Unlike a lot of people, I do not go about my daily business with a buzz emminating from my lugs. It must be an age generation/thing!
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    I'm a big fan of Apple computers (particularly the software rather than the hardware) because the stuff really does work well. Just look at the Macbook laptop I'm currently typing this post on:

    Macbook:~ GH$ uptime
    11:21 up 25 days, 2:57, 3 users, load averages: 0.65 0.69 0.71
    When was the last time you used a Windows laptop for 25 days without needing to reboot?

    However I've never been interested in iPods and iPhones. They're clever toys but I don't like the restrictions that go with them.

    The Onion had a good take on things:

    http://www.theonion.com/content/vide..._revolutionary
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lias View Post
    you have to use Itunes.
    Naw, there's a number of solutions. Winamp for example has iPod support built in.
    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    iTunes based players have a myriad of features built into them that make using any other player archaic in comparison.
    Name some


    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    When was the last time you used a Windows laptop for 25 days without needing to reboot?
    A laptop, well, they move with me, so not very often. This desktop I'm using has an uptime of 47 days though. Media box at home, would have to check, but I'm guessing the uptime is about 5 or 6 hundred days now.

    We had to restart the PC that plays music into our phones last year, it had an uptime of not quite 8 years (benefit of being in the server room on a UPS ).

    You're misguided if you think that it's anything special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    A laptop, well, they move with me, so not very often. This desktop I'm using has an uptime of 47 days though. Media box at home, would have to check, but I'm guessing the uptime is about 5 or 6 hundred days now.

    We had to restart the PC that plays music into our phones last year, it had an uptime of not quite 8 years (benefit of being in the server room on a UPS ).

    You're misguided if you think that it's anything special.
    I used to be an IBM mainframe engineer. We had a customer with a parallel sysplex cluster that had been running for 14 years without a reboot.

    But a 25 day uptime on a laptop is unusual. This machine has been on the road with me, used daily, constantly slept/unslept, and is fully patched.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    How quaint.
    The Walkman debacle was rumoured to have cost Sony $US 9 billion in lost revenue. Apple gained most from it selling roughly 100 million iPods. Today Sony shift more Walkmans built into mobile phones than they sell mp3 players.

    Apple's arrogance could send it the same way as Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxB View Post
    Apple's arrogance could send it the same way as Sony.
    Worse than that... Sony have multiple revenue streams... Apple pretty much have the iPod and their PCs... currently their PC business is living off the back of their iPod business, so if they fuck that up, there's the potential for no more Apple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxB View Post
    Apple's arrogance could send it the same way as Sony.
    Could - unless you are a shareholder who would really care.

    There will be some other equally neat product to replace it.

    What I thought was quaint was that there are still people who have brand angst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Worse than that... Sony have multiple revenue streams... Apple pretty much have the iPod and their PCs... currently their PC business is living off the back of their iPod business, so if they fuck that up, there's the potential for no more Apple.
    Except they have their best computer market share since the 80s - an a billion in cash I read somewheres.



    They all have intel chips and unix platforms now - it's just a matter of what OS you like best - one of mine mine runs both both - and what services you are prepared to pay for.

    Don't like it - don't buy it - there are plenty that will. It all works for me just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    When was the last time you used a Windows laptop for 25 days without needing to reboot?
    Some of my windows machines often have uptimes measure in months not days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    Except they have their best computer market share since the 80s - an a billion in cash I read somewheres.
    Yup, which is still tiny, and a billion in cash wouldn't go far towards paying their creditors in that situation. Fortunately Microsoft have a decent stake in them, and serious cash reserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Yup, which is still tiny, and a billion in cash wouldn't go far towards paying their creditors in that situation. Fortunately Microsoft have a decent stake in them, and serious cash reserves.

    Shares are a touch under a Hundy US and eps $5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Thats just business. Telecom does it. Microsoft does it. Recording companies do it. Apple does it. Long term, we will either have to find some way of reconciling how irritating their restrictions are, or they will have to stop doing it. I can't see the latter happening.
    So true. Tis just marketing / business 101.
    Just like any kidney stone - it'll pass.

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    I bought an original Sony Walkman way back then.

    FM Radio with 2 headphone jacks that 'almost' worked inside. What would have that been - 81 or 82.

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