Does P make you a better rider?

**Sidewinder** · 19th March 2009, 09:08

Originally Posted by peasea

I'm going to take this thread one post at a time;

You might think you're a better rider. I don't think it actually improves your riding, more, it makes you more aware of what you're doing in certain circumstances.

so if your good its gona make you kick ass because you wont miss a beat?

**Sidewinder** · 19th March 2009, 09:20

I had, nah wait i still do have a mate, he just dont have a bike that works now. But he use to ride stoned 24/7 and i mean hard out. Did the coro loop with him one day and im sure he smoked lik 8 joints on the ride! but then he stopped smoking up on rides, then it all started to happen, he must of crashed his bike lik 3 times in a few months and its completely fooked now.
My point is i havent seen people on drugs ride that bad! never had a mate that smokes P crash either

**fatzx10r** · 19th March 2009, 09:38

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

I had, nah wait i still do have a mate, he just dont have a bike that works now. But he use to ride stoned 24/7 and i mean hard out. Did the coro loop with him one day and im sure he smoked lik 8 joints on the ride! but then he stopped smoking up on rides, then it all started to happen, he must of crashed his bike lik 3 times in a few months and its completely fooked now.
My point is i havent seen people on drugs ride that bad! never had a mate that smokes P crash either

smoking lot's of pot make's you ride at 30kph, lol.

p is just for fuckwit's

**Sidewinder** · 19th March 2009, 09:41

Originally Posted by fatzx10r

smoking lot's of pot make's you ride at 30kph, lol.

p is just for fuckwit's

how do you know, you tryed them both?

**hospitalfood** · 19th March 2009, 10:01

Originally Posted by Usarka

BTW - regarding the military use of amphetamine, the US mil use dexamphetamine (come on Eileen), not methamphetamine. However I believe the nazis used meth (including our old mate hitler).

was not invented till some time in the 50s, before that there were others stimulants but they were not as effective and the side effects were even worse.

**PrincessBandit** · 19th March 2009, 12:17

Originally Posted by peasea

Does All Bran give you the clean system of which you speak?

no, that would be P for Prunes

**Lias** · 19th March 2009, 13:14

Taking medical quality methamphetamines would almost certainly have some benefits to riding(Users experience an increase in focus, increased mental alertness, and the elimination of fatigue), but you need to remember what you buy and smoke in the old glass pipe is cut, diluted, and adulterated with god only knows what.

Not to mention the small army of possible side effects, and problems associated with regular usage.

**peasea** · 19th March 2009, 13:23

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

so if your good its gona make you kick ass because you wont miss a beat?

I wouldn't suggest that anyone tries it.

**peasea** · 19th March 2009, 13:25

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

I had, nah wait i still do have a mate, he just dont have a bike that works now. But he use to ride stoned 24/7 and i mean hard out. Did the coro loop with him one day and im sure he smoked lik 8 joints on the ride! but then he stopped smoking up on rides, then it all started to happen, he must of crashed his bike lik 3 times in a few months and its completely fooked now.
My point is i havent seen people on drugs ride that bad! never had a mate that smokes P crash either

Nor me, thankfully.

**pete376403** · 19th March 2009, 21:11

Originally Posted by hospitalfood

was not invented till some time in the 50s, before that there were others stimulants but they were not as effective and the side effects were even worse.

A bit before that, actually:

The history of methamphetamine
Jan 18, 1887: Amphetamine was originally synthesized at Universität Berlin by Romanian chemist Lazar Edeleanu (1861-1941) and originally called phenylisopropylamine. It was then forgotten for the next 4 decades.

1919: Methamphetamine is synthesized by Japanese scientist A. Ogata.

1930: Amphetamine was found to raise blood pressure.

1932: Amphetamine is marketed as 'benzedrine' by Smith, Kline & French, in an over-the-counter inhaler to treat congestion.

1935: Amphetamine's stimulant effect is recognized and doctors successfully utilize it to treat narcolepsy.

1937: Amphetamine is authorized by the American Medical Association for sale in tablet form. It is sold by prescription for the treatment of narcolepsy and ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder).

World War II: Both Amphetamine and Methamphetamine are largely administered to soldiers to help improve performance. This led to addiction issues in Japan after the war.

1940: Methamphetamine is marketed under the brand name "Methedrine" by Burroughs Wellcome.

1942: Dextro-amphetamine and methamphetamine are readily available.

1950 – 1953: U.S. administers amphetamine to soldiers in Korea.

1954: Height of the Japanese amphetamine epidemic. There are approximated to be more than 2 million amphetamine users in a population of 88.5 million.

1959: Original report of IV injection of contents from Benzedrine inhalers.

1963: Illegal speed manufacture starts when the Attorney General of California asks that injectable ampoules be removed from the market.

1960's: Methamphetamine consumption increases in the United States.

1970: Amphetamine is regulated under schedule II in the U.S. with the passage of the 'U.S. Drug Abuse Regulation and Control Act of 1970'. This makes it illicit to possess without a prescription.

Oct 27, 1970: The Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act is approved. Part II of this is the Controlled Substance Act (CSA) which defines a scheduling system for drugs. It places the majority of the known hallucinogens (LSD, psilocybin, psilocin, mescaline, peyote, cannabis, & MDA) in Schedule I. It classifies coca, cocaine and injectable methamphetamine in Schedule II. Other amphetamines and stimulants, such as non-injectable methamphetamine are under Schedule III.

Jul 7, 1971: Amphetamine and Methamphetamine (non-injectable) are now classified under Schedule II.

Late 1980's: Smoked Methamphetamine gains in popularity.

http://www.methamphetamine-addiction...ne-history.htm

**Korea** · 20th March 2009, 09:14

Originally Posted by pete376403

1937: Amphetamine is authorized by the American Medical Association for sale in tablet form. It is sold by prescription for the treatment of narcolepsy and ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder).

This confuses me - give speed to already hyperactive kids? How does that work?

**jim.cox** · 20th March 2009, 10:04

Originally Posted by PrincessBandit

no, that would be P for Prunes

Which we know aren't good for riding

'cos they make you keep having to stop for a dump

**Shaun** · 20th March 2009, 10:50

Originally Posted by fatzx10r

smoking lot's of pot make's you ride at 30kph, lol.

p is just for fuckwit's

Agree mate! I watched a very close friend change big time over a period of 12 months smoking that shit! P is what is helping kill people and keep crimianls rich only, it is a dam epedemic in this country now

**Sidewinder** · 20th March 2009, 11:45

Originally Posted by Shaun

Agree mate! I watched a very close friend change big time over a period of 12 months smoking that shit! P is what is helping kill people and keep crimianls rich only, it is a dam epedemic in this country now

if it was a real free country there wouldnt be a problem with any drug would there?