Privateers Cup and Naked Class?

[sinfull]

you would probably get more for the triumph!

For sale ! One 03 955 speed 3 20 odd thousand km, oils changed every 3/5 k as a road bike and 300/400 km on the track (around 2000km) 20k service just done ! Just as quick on the track as my 1050 ! (Fucked if i know why)

Suit commuter purposes?...

Be a waste of a bike but fuck you'd look good ! You'd look even better on a naked though !

[GIXser]

I also see the clubs involved side of the coin. You ran events, few entered. What the fuck is wrong with people?

in my view it is still the lack of advertising, and promotion, if the series was heavily advertised/promoted well before hand, you would get more entries!!!!

[White trash]

in my view it is still the lack of advertising, and promotion, if the series was heavily advertised/promoted well before hand, you would get more entries!!!!

You tryin to tell me that racers didn't know the National rounds were approaching? Doubt it.

[Rcktfsh]

[QUOTE=steveyb;1991977]But I have issues with further dilution. My own opinion is that we have all the racing classes that our market can really stand, as we are now.

At national level we have the SBK class for the top tier, the SP600 class for the up-and-comers, the F3 class for the fiddlers and smaller of budgets, the Pro-twin class for up-and-comers of smaller budgets, 125GP as our only internationally relevent race class for younger and not so younger riders, SuperMoto for the dirtrackers (not at national level, but it is there), sidecars for the terminally insane, SS150 for youth (pseudo national class which I think should be an officially national class), and Clubmans for support for everyone else. Not to mention the BEARS meetings for a large number of these so-called Naked bikes anyway as who will turn up on an FZ6 when ther will be SuperDukes, SpeedTriples and Hypermotos or something in the same race?

Really, what more do we need? What is really to be gained by diluting that even further? More classes = less tracktime at any given meeting, plain and simple. Why is it that a Naked class needs to be formed? Why is it that these riders will not ride in another class, such as Pro-Twin?


couldn't agree more

[scrivy]

sidecars for the terminally insane

You taking the piss Steve??

I take offence to that..... actually, I'll take the gate as well.......

[sinfull]

Not to mention the BEARS meetings for a large number of these so-called Naked bikes anyway as who will turn up on an FZ6 when ther will be SuperDukes, SpeedTriples and Hypermotos or something in the same race?

Really, what more do we need? What is really to be gained by diluting that even further? More classes = less tracktime at any given meeting, plain and simple. Why is it that a Naked class needs to be formed? Why is it that these riders will not ride in another class, such as Pro-Twin?

Sure Bro sweet as, you swing it for me and i'll race in every READ EVERY pro twin class you can get me into !
There was a pro twin class at the Manfield Nats ! How many Bikes ?
Like to see a list of bears events for the north island too for that matter !

[Teambwr47]

'Factory supported' riders in NZ...... really?

Do we actually mean riders that get some help in the funding of a bike from the New Zealand distributor, because I sincerely doubt there are any 'factory' rides in NZ.

I like the idea presented but where would you draw the line in NZ?

I got my bike through Yamaha NZ on a race programme, they still own the base bike now but I paid for absolutely everything else to be done to it via my finances or that of sponsors and its only in the next few weeks I'll take on ownership of the bike.

Does that mean I wouldn't qualify for the Privateers cup as the bike is Yamaha's even though I get no further help/assistance and race as a one man band team being Rider/mechanic/gofor on a race day?

[Robert Taylor]

You taking the piss Steve??

I take offence to that..... actually, I'll take the gate as well.......

Yes Scrivvy I think he was having fun. Seriously though if you were a caveman and were given a pencil and a piece of paper would you seriously draw an inherently unstable three track vehicle? (Sidecars do have their place though)
I agree with Steve entirely, why dilute everything further. Stop grizzling, run with what weve got and promote it well. There is going to be some harsh reality with the world economic mess but that is no justification in itself to mess with the current classes too much. For some people it will never be cheap enough, even if our premier class was racing stripped down CT90s

[roogazza]

Imagine the hoons that would come out to play if there was a naked class ! Todays bears races were chocka with riders throwing everthing into their races, nakeds everywhere !
I look at the future of my speed triple and think, i got to trade it if i wanna keep doin this cause there aint nothin past clubmans ! Sure i move into F1, yay, unless i can find 10 others who would want to do the same, i'm racing myself !

Willy,Willy, think about it before you go throwing the dollars around ! Why not just stay a clubman ? 1.17's before you get kicked out, and you are not there yet are you ?
With a little bit of experience you can still have fun.
Times are going to get tougher, I'd think long and hard before doing what I think a lot of novices do before they need to ? Just a thought bud ! Gaz.

[sinfull]

1.17's before you get kicked out, and you are not there yet are you ?
With a little bit of experience you can still have fun.
Times are going to get tougher, I'd think long and hard before doing what I think a lot of novices do before they need to ? Just a thought bud ! Gaz.

There lies the problem Gazza !
Last official time was 1.19 flat on jan 18 pmcc round 2 and the Mrs had me on the stop watch at 1.21 the week before
She had me at mid 1.18's consistantly on the stop watch three weeks ago ! What do i do, Slow down ?

[FROSTY:Me]

Ya know right on up till yesterday I 100% agreed that advertising was the way to attract the crowds and the entrys.
That was before the Wings over Whenuapai happened.
People in their tens of thousands flocked to the event.
There was stuff all advertising for it relative to the event size.
But why?? Whats different? How did so many peoples imagination get captured?
-I wouldnt have a clue but might be worth figuring out.

[scrivy]

Yes Scrivvy I think he was having fun. Seriously though if you were a caveman and were given a pencil and a piece of paper would you seriously draw an inherently unstable three track vehicle? (Sidecars do have their place though)

Firstly, what caveman had pencils and paper???

Yes he would have drawn a conventional sidecar - but not a carbon fibre made long bike (fags weren't around back then)!!

And why would he have drawn an unbalanced machine that only had 2 wheels??

[CHOPPA]

'Factory supported' riders in NZ...... really?

Do we actually mean riders that get some help in the funding of a bike from the New Zealand distributor, because I sincerely doubt there are any 'factory' rides in NZ.

I like the idea presented but where would you draw the line in NZ?

I got my bike through Yamaha NZ on a race programme, they still own the base bike now but I paid for absolutely everything else to be done to it via my finances or that of sponsors and its only in the next few weeks I'll take on ownership of the bike.

Does that mean I wouldn't qualify for the Privateers cup as the bike is Yamaha's even though I get no further help/assistance and race as a one man band team being Rider/mechanic/gofor on a race day?

If your getting a free bike from a manufacturer then you would be a 'factory' rider, we all know its not FACTORY but were in nz...

[Danger Dave]

You tryin to tell me that racers didn't know the National rounds were approaching? Doubt it.

i'm sure the racers knew but no one else did, i work in a bike shop and we got no posters or advertising to put up about the nationals, when i got out to the track (puke) there was no signs or advertising to say there was any racing on, it seems like if you don't follow racing closely you wouldn't know when the rounds were.

[cowpoos]

You taking the piss Steve??

I take offence to that..... actually, I'll take the gate as well.......

I thought it was for those that need training wheels...or is that just for demmocks and annan??