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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I don't disagree. (Hell, I'm waiting on an appeal application based on the fact that a cop blatantly lied under oath in court).

    The thing is though - the police aren't the only ones guilty of lying in court. It's human nature to lie to save your arse.

    Motorcyclists included.
    Fair call, but................
    Bikers are 'biker scum', right? You expect that if you're Joe Publc. (If you're judge, jury member or mass media journo et al.)

    However; if you're a straight thinker, looking for the truth (hard to find, I know) then I'd still be looking sideways at the cop. History has a way of repeating itself. I know that doing a U-turn in the Buller Gorge is different to a mass murder but I'd be be keen to have a word with the bikers affected by the gorge incident and David Bain alike. Who did what, who put what where, and where is the truth? The police just want to close the case, not find the truth or obtain justice.

    An expansion of Google Earth could be advantageous at times. I doubt the police would want that though.

    In a way I pity Bridgeman; first up, he goofed it, we all do from time to time. Secondly, he was close to a retirement package (that he will most likely retain) and it's not a good way to out; finally,he might (might) feel badly about the event.

    Whatever his sentence he will move on. Those who were injured may or may not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Let me be tactful here: HE IS NO LONGER A COP.
    Once a cop, always a cop. Like: I"m off duty, I won't bust you for smoking a spliff".

    Bullshit.

    I never go over 100k's either.

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Cop he was, cop he is.

    Like a 'Mongel Mob' tat on the forehead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Once a cop, always a cop. Like: I"m off duty, I won't bust you for smoking a spliff".

    Bullshit.

    I never go over 100k's either.

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Cop he was, cop he is.

    Like a 'Mongel Mob' tat on the forehead.
    Oh.

    So he'll be out on the road writing out tickets next week eh?

    And doing half-arsed U-turns in the Buller Gorge and other cop shit too eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Once a cop, always a cop. Like: I"m off duty, I won't bust you for smoking a spliff".

    Bullshit.

    I never go over 100k's either.

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Cop he was, cop he is.

    Like a 'Mongel Mob' tat on the forehead.
    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Oh.

    So he'll be out on the road writing out tickets next week eh?

    And doing half-arsed U-turns in the Buller Gorge and other cop shit too eh?
    You fellas should get a room
    In space, no one can smell your fart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    You fellas should get a room
    I have one.

    Inside my head.

    Where all the voices come from..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Once a cop, always a cop. Like: I"m off duty, I won't bust you for smoking a spliff".

    Bullshit.

    I never go over 100k's either.

    Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Cop he was, cop he is.

    Like a 'Mongel Mob' tat on the forehead.
    Good thing you shifted to Nelson. It's toned you down

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    Regardless of how far over the speed limit the motorcyclists were travelling there remains the responsibility to be able to stop within the distance available to you. There are countless blind corners without advisory speed warnings that are not safe to take even at 100kph.

    It has become increasingly endemic for motorcyclists to blame everything and everyone who has the audacity to spoil their 'fun in the twisties'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Let me be tactful here: HE IS NO LONGER A COP.
    What difference does that make? He was when he committed his crime, he should have known better, and now he has to pay. If I shot a few people, then sold my gun/s and handed in my FA licence, would that absolve me of the killings. I think not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It has become increasingly endemic for motorcyclists to blame everything and everyone who has the audacity to spoil their 'fun in the twisties'.
    It is becoming increasingly endemic for fuckwits who can't drive to use 'our' roads.
    Time for these...
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    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Regardless of how far over the speed limit the motorcyclists were travelling there remains the responsibility to be able to stop within the distance available to you. There are countless blind corners without advisory speed warnings that are not safe to take even at 100kph.

    It has become increasingly endemic for motorcyclists to blame everything and everyone who has the audacity to spoil their 'fun in the twisties'.
    I sure as fuck hope that you are not trying to suggest that the cop in this case was blameless!

    Maybe the bikers were exceeding the speed limit - I don't know.
    Maybe the bikers didn't react as quickly as they should have - I don't know.
    The police officer should NOT have attempted to turn in such a dangerous place - this I know, he has been convicted for doing it. Some motorists may not realise just how dangerous such a stupid move was, but the cop definitely should have known!

    There are lessons to be learnt for all of us in the misfortunes of others. In this case it would be that you need to stop if you come around a corner and see a car ahead performing a 3 point turn. You also need to react VERY quickly to danger. These 2 motorcyclists could well have been killed if they had taken just 1 second longer to start braking, their reaction times may not have saved them from a crash, but it was good enough to save them from death.
    To be honest I think with the crash and injuries they have already paid enough for their part in this incident. Hopefully the court sentence will be enough for the cop to pay adequately for his part (though it wont surprise me if he gets off too lightly).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    What difference does that make? He was when he committed his crime, he should have known better, and now he has to pay. If I shot a few people, then sold my gun/s and handed in my FA licence, would that absolve me of the killings. I think not...
    See post #154.

    The dude posting seems to say that the guy is still a cop - I KNOW it does not make effawl difference to what has happened though...and I don't believe his leaving will 'absolve him of the crash' ..nobody has yet said that.

    Except maybe certain posters who by comments think/guess/dream it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post

    It is becoming increasingly endemic for fuckwits who can't drive to use 'our' roads.
    I realise that comment was probably made with a certain degree of tongue in cheek but that's the very attitude that is fucking things up for us. They're not 'our roads' - we share them with a number of different forms of transport and need to learn to ride accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I realise that comment was probably made with a certain degree of tongue in cheek but that's the very attitude that is fucking things up for us. They're not 'our roads' - we share them with a number of different forms of transport and need to learn to ride accordingly.
    Yes dad.
    Ever noticed as the numbers of vehicles on our roads increase, how the percentage of driving fuckwittery seems to increase exponentially? And how the de facto open road speed is dropping through 80kph? And even then, they can't keep within the lane?
    I mean, they have a right to be on the road (if they have the licence) and I don't mind that. What pisses me off is when they are on the same bit of road as me or my friends AT THE SAME TIME.
    And getting back to the original subject, some of these idiots are cops.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    If that's for real (would love to hear the soundtrack), it would rank as one of the dumbest foot in mouth moves ever.
    Perhaps he was owning up and accepting his own responsibilities.... Heard that somewhere.... Hmmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Bet ya a woodie this ends up just shy of 37 pages.
    Double that, and I bet David YALLOP, North and South Magazine or Joe KARAM write a book over his innocence...

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Perhaps he/they have already been issued infringements? Otherwise...dumb admission.
    Otherwise, statute of limitations have passed. Don't matter one jot....

    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    .....Why on earth would I run from a $170 traffic infringement. I only had 20 demerits then (and still now)
    Why indeed. That never happens.

    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    I know, for a fact, that cops lie. They lie at the scene of incidents, in court and anywhere else they see a need to save their arse. I've seen/heard them do it and for them to gather up any respect from me is going to take a fucking long time indeed. They have a 'holier than thou' attitude throughout.
    And all Maori are crims... and all old white guys are paedophiles... and all asians can't drive..... and all sheilas can't park cars...

    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Yes dad.
    Ever noticed as the numbers of vehicles on our roads increase, how the percentage of driving fuckwittery seems to increase exponentially? And how the de facto open road speed is dropping through 80kph? And even then, they can't keep within the lane?
    I mean, they have a right to be on the road (if they have the licence) and I don't mind that. What pisses me off is when they are on the same bit of road as me or my friends AT THE SAME TIME.
    And getting back to the original subject, some of these idiots are cops.
    One out of how many, over how long, again...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post

    Otherwise, statute of limitations have passed. Don't matter one jot....


    One out of how many, over how long, again...?
    Didn't think there was such a thing. Other than a charge having to be heard by the court within a timely period (whatever that is).

    Only one? I guess so, in this particular case there was only one cop involved...
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    Didn't think there was such a thing. Other than a charge having to be heard by the court within a timely period (whatever that is).

    Only one? I guess so, in this particular case there was only one cop involved...
    6 months limit for virtually all traffic stuff...

    Yep... only one. I do recall one other, once upon a time....

    Two then, in how long?

    We deal with idiots 24/7... all day, every day..... That shit's gotta rub off some time, I suppose....

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