Giant steps are what you take....

[3L4NS1R]

It troubles me. Still. After many years of seeing the doco that put it in peoples heads that it may not have happened.

The two bits of evidence that trouble me most are

1: Where did the wind come from that made the flag wave?

2: How did they film the lunar module blasting off the surface. FROM the surface? AND have it pan up perfectly, keeping the module in center of frame?

If anyone can answer those, I'd LOVE to know.

[Laava]

The flag thing is easy! Because of gravity and NO wind, the flag has a crossarm. As the astro naut wiggles his hand/wrist, the crossarm moves and appears to wave the flag. The absence of aptmosphere is irrelevant, the flag material is following the laws of physics.
The 2nd one? No idea! Anyone? Bueller?

[Fooman]

Nice one. But in regards to the test the key point is "over time". Put sand in a chamber and decompress it doesn't instantly make it dry. Overwise I'd replace my stupid 1hour cycle clothes dryer with a vacuum chamber.

"over time" can be pretty quick, depending on the actual pressures (absolute) and temperatures. Flash drying either using going from high pressure to ambient at high temperatures (e.g. milk powder production) or from ambient pressure to vacuum at ambient temperature is reasonably common.

In the experiment, if the sand was introduced into the vacuum chamber, and then the chamber evacuated, then the time it took for the chamber to pump down could be enough to removed the moisture. I never saw the program, so can't really comment on the actual experiment or if they appeared to edit anything out.

Vacuum does cool stuff - literally. One of the better physics demo's at uni that I saw involved freezing of liquid nitrogen by boiling it!

The dehumdifying driers work by removing moisture by removing it through condensation - dry air is used to maintain non-equilibrium transport from the clothes to the air, rather than vacuum.

Cheers,
FM

[Fooman]

The flag thing is easy! Because of gravity and NO wind, the flag has a crossarm. As the astro naut wiggles his hand/wrist, the crossarm moves and appears to wave the flag. The absence of aptmosphere is irrelevant, the flag material is following the laws of physics.
The 2nd one? No idea! Anyone? Bueller?

Actually the absence of the atmosphere is vaguely relevant - there is less damping on the flag, so it would wave/waggle/vibrate for a lot longer after any excitation.

Number 2. If it is possible for somebody to build somthing to land and return from the moon, I suggest it is possible for them to mount a video camera on a tripod with a remote trigger and some sort of panning mechanism that would track the LM - radar + stepper motor. The acceleration of the LM would be known, such that it could follow it if activated at the right time.

Cheers,
FM

[pzkpfw]

2: How did they film the lunar module blasting off the surface. FROM the surface? AND have it pan up perfectly, keeping the module in center of frame?

This was only done in the later J missions that took a rover. (e.g. NOT Apollo 11).

There was a camera on the rover that was remotely controllable from Earth.

(It's also how there is footage of the two crew who landed picking up rocks etc. - if you watch the entire footage from the Moon you'll see times when the camera on the rover pans around a bit.)

The guy was Ed Fresnel or something (I'll look it up for you).

From: http://www.clavius.org/bibmilne.html

2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's lunar lander lifting off the moon. Who did the filming?

Ed Fendell, the camera operator at Mission Control, by remote control. It's fairly common knowledge that the television cameras on Apollos 15, 16, and 17 were operated by remote control from Houston. And the video footage from those missions is rife with pans, tilts, and zooms with both astronauts away from the camera (indeed, in the frame).

He knew when the lander would take-off and how quick it would move - and practiced.

In any case, it was not so good on the first attempt! He got better at it.

[3L4NS1R]

Well, now I'm satisfied. Glad our race has gotten somewhere. Was a bit depressed for a few years there...

[Skyryder]

NASA has landed a man on Mars but since they can not convince half the world that they landed a man on the moon they have not advertised this success other than paying the Brits to produce LIFE ON MARS.

Skyryder

[McJim]

You do realise that all the rockets, space shuttles and man made satellites are all just a conspiracy? There is a small army of people that run around after people with so called "satellite technology" such as satellite 'phones, global positioning devices and even your basic navigation equipment. They have huge rolls of wire that connect them to their base and through these they transmit with walkie talkies to your equipment making you think that there really are man made satellites in space.

So there.

[Timber020]

The whole "moon landing was a hoax" is simply the last gasps of the flat earth society. Everyone loves a conspiracy. Everyone can prove or disprove things if you just use the right evidence.

[fire eyes]

I have always wondered ... if they did land on the Moon ... why are they still not constantly making trips there? And dont you bastards shoot me down either because it's a serious question .. it's in the Human nature to consume everything within it's path ... why havent they made more trips and exhausted whatever resources available or even just to stroke the ego a little more???? hmmmmmmmm

[EJK]

They are gonna film another one shorthly. This time with CGI.

Comming soon to DVD and Blu Ray.

[pzkpfw]

I have always wondered ... if they did land on the Moon ... why are they still not constantly making trips there? And dont you bastards shoot me down either because it's a serious question .. it's in the Human nature to consume everything within it's path ... why havent they made more trips and exhausted whatever resources available or even just to stroke the ego a little more???? hmmmmmmmm

Just having done it - does not make it easy or cheap.

There could be gold bars lying around on the lunar soil, ready to be just picked up, and it would still be more expensive to bring it back to Earth than to just mine more, here.

Trips to the bottom of the Oceans are still pretty rare, too.

[fire eyes]

Just having done it - does not make it easy or cheap.

There could be gold bars lying around on the lunar soil, ready to be just picked up, and it would still be more expensive to bring it back to Earth than to just mine more, here.

Trips to the bottom of the Oceans are still pretty rare, too.

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Fair point .. but I still don't buy it .. I don't believe money would be an issue .. old boys club and all .. those in that position of power can get their hands on anything.

[Oakie]

Always find oil in the most hostile of places

My mother-in-law has oil?

[Robbo]

It troubles me. Still. After many years of seeing the doco that put it in peoples heads that it may not have happened.

The two bits of evidence that trouble me most are

1: Where did the wind come from that made the flag wave?

2: How did they film the lunar module blasting off the surface. FROM the surface? AND have it pan up perfectly, keeping the module in center of frame?

If anyone can answer those, I'd LOVE to know.

I think i can help you there.

1) The boys had been eating baked beans the night before the landing and there were excessive bouts of flatulance after landing, hence the flag waving.

2) Simple really, they just filmed a landing and then played the film backwards so it looked like a lift off.

Mmmmm!!! Maybe i should have been a rocket scientist.

But seriously, it Really Did Happen.