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  1. #16
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    Nice one

    I see hints of Lady Penelope in there...


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    Thanks for the tips so far, Chris. Just a question, do you reckon that RG150 wheel will fit in the RGV frame reasonably easily? Are the axles about the same size? How about the wheel width? I don't really want to try widening the swing arm.

    BTW, I'm the tall bloke who relieved you of your RGV indicators a few months back. Won't be needing those now though, haha!

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matoc View Post
    I don't really want to try widening the swing arm.
    You sure? Nothing a mallet can't fix! It has worked well so far!! Hopefully we will have more pictures up of the engine mounted in it! And we think the bike has a name.... just tossing up between a couple of ideas. Will be unveiled on the 12th!!

    Yeah once again, thanks Chris! You have been a big big help! We took this thing down a few hills today with corners. Feels way way better with the clip-ons lower and the forks through the triple tree more! Definately looking forward to getting the engine in this puppy.

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    Glad I can help !!!

    The RG rear wheel should fit, I think the axle sizes are the same. Don't widen the swingarm.
    What you will have to do is either modify existing or make different spacers to get the wheel in centre with the swingarm. Also be aware that you will now have a disc rear not drum so you'll have make a caliper mount to the RHS spacer. Also you have to buy a complete caliper assy.
    The Chinese ones will do I think like this
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...-210738975.htm

    Bit of work involved but worth it in the end.

    Another thing. When mounting the engine, try and get the sprocket as close to the swingarm pivot as possible and try to get it level also so the chain keeps it's ideal slackness with the suspension moving up and down. If you're unsure what I mean, give me a call.

    Cheers


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    Would anyone happen to have an RGV150 front sprocket? Turns out that the TS125 and RGV150 have the same front sprocket, but sadly mine has been geared up a tooth or two so its acceleration is pathetic.

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    Gee, maybe try a bike shop I've heard they have them. Seriously for short tracks you will need super low gearing. After market sprockets will be cheap JT for instance. So buy the smallest & next smallest avail & you should be right for most short tracks.
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    Progress 2

    Well here are some more pics! We finished welding the main two engine brackets on so it's sitting in there pretty snugly. Now we've just got the front two (which will be easy), the exhaust system (which definitely will not be) and the wiring. Then it'll be troubleshooting time!
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    Awesome !!!!!

    I think the main concern you have now is the Nut behind the handlebars is a bit loose.....


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    The nuttier the better! Still have a little bit of welding to do and if we have to modify the pipe, the mig welder we are using won't be appropriate. So we are hoping we aren't in too much shit with that.

    As for the wiring, we are going to sort of wing it. Not that anything else we have done wasn't winging it! Hmmmm.

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    Why not clean that carb up and give the motor a lick of paint?
    Looking good otherwise ...

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    Giving it a paint job is DEFINATELY on the cards. But not until this bastard can run! Still many hours left. Also that carb is going to be replaced before it is [hopefully] raced on the Sunday of Easter weekend. We have found a guy who can sell us a 24mm carb! We also have a smaller front sprocket on the way (the current one is far too big) and hopefully a new chain being ordered tomorrow.

    Just a quick question, how hard is it to wire the engine up? By this I mean to get the spark to run off the generater thing (very technical lingo) and to be switched on (to complete the circuit) by the key? Just your thoughts or experience on this. We have all the right gear and parts for the job.

    I am thinking a pink paint job for the fairy that will be riding it, huh Matt?

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    Is it ok to weld on the frame with the engine mounted in the frame? I am not sure if anything will get destroyed. We are using a mig welder.

    Also, we tried crash starting it today (with the old TS125 pipe, the expansion hasn't arrived yet) and we had no success. We are positive that it is our wiring. We are finding it damn hard to get that sorted. Take a look at this:
    http://smokeriders.com/diagrams/Suzu...C125schemw.gif
    It is a diagram of the TS125 wiring. Looks a lot more complicated with the wires infront of you.

    We are going to fix up our engine mounts then we will have to sort wiring. If anyone that lives in the Wellington area wouldn't mind coming over later this week to help with wiring, that would be much appreciated. Will supply a few beers. Fingers crossed that this bucket will make the Sunday race

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    Should be fine welding the engine in place. What you want to do is just tack it, then remove the engine to properly weld it.

    With regards to the wiring, what I've done in the past is get a diagram like you've done and then re-draw it to only the wires you require (eg coil, battery, magneto, rectifier)
    Then use coloured felt pens to draw them. Makes it so much easier to follow.

    I can help if you get really stuck though.


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  14. #29
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    Yeah i have cut the diagram down to the wires we need, but the engine still didn't want to start. Will hopefully have a better crack at it later.

    Yeah we have been tacking, but our welding skills suck ass. We have gotten much much better though. We will try mount the motor completely and tack the mounts on around it, then remove.

    We aren't using a battery for the engine either because that is how the original TS came like.
    Cheers for the help!

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    Have you been using a volt meter?
    It's a fast way to prove things (if you know what to do)

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