Jail rehabilitates and can turn scum into valued members of society.

[sunhuntin]

A quarter of a century ago I was a teacher of young primary school children - six and seven year olds mostly.

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

[slofox]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

Sounds like urgent need for that "environmental transplant"...

[rosie631]

Kuariki is just rotten. He will never change. Lock him up and throw away the key I say.

[35tickets]

You know, a Barret M107 .50cal sniper rifle has a max range of 6.8km and an effective range of 1.8kms (as in complete accuracy). That is a long way for someone to setup away from the courts buildings entrances and "pick off" some of these scum that are not needed to live anymore......

I couldn't agree more mate

[Winston001]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker....

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so many times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

I share your frustration but CYFS are caught between a rock and a hard place. If they intervene and it turns out to be a mistake, they get bollocks from Closeup, MPs, media etc, and when they stand back.....children die. Can never win. Don't know but your nephew sounds like a mild case compared with the bad ones CYFS deal with.

I observed many different behaviour patterns amongst those kids and I identified many that I thought would "come to no good". I was right in every case that I have been able to keep up with.

They grow up in a dysfunctional environment and they stay in that environment. Without an environmental transplant, they will always drift back, just like the original subject of this thread. Some of them will just have to be caged for life to keep the rest of us safe...

You've hit the nail on the head. All the good work at attempted rehabilitation by teachers, counsellors, police officers, prison workers etc is lost when young offenders go back home. Until these kids experience a positive and safe place to live, their lives will continue on the downward spiral.

[Skyryder]

So, so true.

Like pups you have to start training them the 'proper way' and who's boss right from the get-go.

After the first seven or so years the kid SHOULD be a good type of person.

Yep agreed. I have always said raising kids is not much different from training the dog.


Rewards for good behavour..........growly grumps for bad.

Ya just gota put in the time.................so many fail to achnowledge this.


Skyryder

[rwh]

Easier, and cheaper in the long run, to poison the P ingredients as they come into the country, rather than confiscate them.

You think killing off everyone with a cold (by poisoning the codral) will solve this? Nice to see some thought going into this ...

Richard

[98tls]

You think killing off everyone with a cold (by poisoning the codral) will solve this? Nice to see some thought going into this ...

Richard

Works for me they piss me off with all that sniffing/nose blowing shit.

[rwh]

Works for me they piss me off with all that sniffing/nose blowing shit.

Those are the ones who aren't taking the pseudoephedrine ...

Richard

[Genestho]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

There are now pathological tests that can be voluntarily filled out, as a parent, early childcare teachers have a certain amount of input as I understand it, through daycares and so on, that can and do differenciate early between bad behaviour, behavioural problems, and the pathological alarm bells.
It's a fairly new concept, time will tell if this will head future burtons and bells off at the pass.

[Dave Lobster]

You think killing off everyone with a cold (by poisoning the codral) will solve this? Nice to see some thought going into this ...

Richard

The people taking psuedoblah for a cold don't buy it from someone who crushes several kilos of it to hide about their person/in a crate/etc. with the intention of turning it into P.
Do you really think that the makers of P buy their Contac NT at the local corner shop? Get a grip..

This is what needs poisoning.

[The Pastor]

just a thought on the title of this thread.

Jail is a punishment, not a rehab center.

Maybe we need a system in place one the person gets out of jail? - maybe it could start while they are in jail.

[98tls]

just a thought on the title of this thread.

Jail is a punishment, not a rehab center.

Maybe we need a system in place one the person gets out of jail? - maybe it could start while they are in jail.

Great idea,Auckland would be a great place to kick it off.

[rwh]

Do you really think that the makers of P buy their Contac NT at the local corner shop?

Obviously - otherwise we wouldn't have to present ID to buy it

This is what needs poisoning.

Fair enough. I obviously don't keep up with the news enough. And I'm not a P consumer (or baker).

Incidentally, I wish they didn't quote the street value of the drugs in these cases - it just looks like 'see how much money you can make!'. Instead, they should say something like 'enough to ruin the lives of 300 addicts, and whoever they beat up'. The street value is merely the result of the illegality of the trade.

Richard

[idb]

so that means ive got just over 6 years to try and help my nephew. hes only about 18 months, but already hes violent and a real wrecker. spends more time breaking his toys than playing with them, and hes quite nasty towards his older sister as well as his extended family. hes shoved me on more than one occasion, and has hit out at his grandmother.

christ, i wish cyfs would fucking sit up and take note! the 'mother' has been reported so mnay times, and yet they allow her to have the kids most of the time. they are useless!

Ah...it'll all come right in your town when you get the "H".
You have to prioritise you know...look after the important stuff...