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    Quote Originally Posted by The Guzzi Widow View Post
    There are now pathological tests that can be voluntarily filled out, as a parent, early childcare teachers have a certain amount of input as I understand it, through daycares and so on, that can and do differenciate early between bad behaviour, behavioural problems, and the pathological alarm bells.
    It's a fairly new concept, time will tell if this will head future burtons and bells off at the pass.
    There's no voluntary component. An early childhood teacher can completely destroy a child's education and cost parents thousands to reverse decisions on the basis of a diagnosis made by a person lacking basic knowledge and qualifications to act as a diagnostician. I often wonder how many of the basket cases like the poor soul in the OP are the direct result of an incorrect or convenient ADHD diagnosis, or simple covert racism.

    I have no trust or respect for any education professional as a result of the experiences of the last 5 years, and fully expect to have to spend thousands more making sure my boys aren' destroyed by a system that celebrates violence, supports bullies, and stullifies imagination and genuine thought.
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    He needs a good raping from Bubba Manu in Cell Block C......

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    M Laws wrote this a few days ago, weather you like the guy or not its a fairly valid point, not just against the maori party but as the degeneration and wastefull neglect of todays young generation, I hate to think where it will end...

    ""We're Maori and we support one another all the time ... we are Maori until the day we die. Whanau is whanau." Hone Harawira, MP
    THESE WERE the words proffered by the Te Tai Tokerau MP as he entertained the two thugs accused of assaulting broken-armed Prime Minister John Key on Waitangi Day.
    In recognition of their outstanding valour, Harawira treated the Popata brothers to lunch at Bellamy's an "up yours" to both the Pakeha establishment and to his party's senior coalition party.
    When the media sought censure from his co-leaders Pita Sharples and Tariana Turia, their response was entirely typical. That's just the Maori way, they shrugged. An earlier suggestion of regret melted under the examination.
    As it will always be from the Maori Party on any Maori issue that really matters gang membership, child murder, the underclass, incest, criminal offending.
    The Maori Party has become an apologist for the excesses of its ethnicity. Rather than accept that there are problems within wider Maori society and that they are self-perpetuating the Maori Party way is to excuse and equivocate. To shift any blame. They have become appeasers of infamy.
    This is primarily due to the philosophy espoused by Harawira that whanau is whanau and that all Maori are whanau. Including child abusers, the murderers and rapists, recidivist crims and gang members. Any normal society would cut such recalcitrants adrift and regard them as aberrant.
    The Maori Party consider them family.
    And yet this is the party that John Key and his ministers are going to be making whoopee with over the next three years. Under the illusion that the Maori Party actually has a tangible aspiration for their people. If so, then that collective aspiration must be to bludge, bash and blame.
    But more worrying is the lack of government outcry at Harawira's upraised digit at the prime minister.
    If this was United Future's Peter Dunne entertaining some distant Nazi skinhead relatives from Christchurch fresh from taking a swing at Sharples there would be a political conflagration. Especially were Dunne to declare that he regularly attends criminal courts because so many of his rellies end up there. And, y'know, blood is thicker than water, eh. Meanwhile, the real problems continue to march into new infants classes everywhere. A new generation of feral kids who don't recognise their name, don't know how to hold a book or a pencil, don't have any concept of personal hygiene, and don't have a show.
    Such were the conclusions from a survey run by Horowhenua mayor Brendan Duffy released last week in association with local primary school principals. Quite why local government should be involving itself in such issues, I do not know. But Duffy is to be praised for doing so: and for publicising the appalling results.
    After all, it's his council and his community who are required to deal with the anti-social consequences. Inadequately, as it turns out, because there is no nationwide policy that seeks to identify feral whanau and intervene.
    It is the true timebomb that ticks in this country our growing underclass, predominantly brown, transient, illiterate, dirty and diseased. And the diseases are not simply of the Third World, but diseases of mind and spirit.
    The decay of drugs, booze and baccy visited daily upon the small children in their supposed care.
    We see the ghastly consequences the murdered children, the prison population, the swaggering gang losers. But these are only the more obvious tragedies. So too the children with brains atrophied by their parents' willing ignorance. And imbuing that warped world view upon the next generation.
    Which poses the question: do these people understand that they are bad parents? The answer, surely, must be no. They have no immediate reference, no associates, no whanau to suggest otherwise. Their consciousness accepts their lifestyle as normal because it is the only normal that they have ever known.
    Then our wider society starts blaming schools and teachers for not turning such stock into solid citizens. Little wonder that so many primary school teachers are disaffected with their careers. They are powerless to alter and influence the lives of these blasted kids that infest their classes. They can only chip at the edges.
    Meanwhile, the Maori Party and its ilk play at gesture politics.
    They campaign for the meaningless a name change to a city, the opportunity to run their own prisons, entertaining thugs at Bellamy's.
    Devolution of government services to Maori has been the official policy since 1985. The belief that whanau know best. Has it made any difference? Has it uplifted Maori? Improved Maori health? Has it arrested the swelling underclass?
    Has it given new infant teachers the opportunity to make a difference? Has it heck.
    And the Maori Party won't be making any difference soon."
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    NZ has a Pauline Hansen! He spoils some valid things for looking at for improvement by slating everything and hate speech - just like a toddler tantrum.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghost View Post
    Under the illusion that the Maori Party actually has a tangible aspiration for their people. If so, then that collective aspiration must be to bludge, bash and blame.

    HISTRIONIC AND WRONG

    because there is no nationwide policy that seeks to identify feral whanau .... It is the true timebomb that ticks in this country our growing underclass, predominantly brown... transient, illiterate, dirty and diseased. And the diseases are not simply of the Third World, but diseases of mind and spirit.

    RACIST HATE SPEECH - the delicious irony of this is his mention somewhere there of what if Peter Dunne lunched with Nazis

    We see the ghastly consequences the murdered children, the prison population, the swaggering gang losers. But these are only the more obvious tragedies. So too the children with brains atrophied by their parents' willing ignorance. And imbuing that warped world view upon the next generation.
    Which poses the question: do these people understand that they are bad...

    NON SEQUITOR - CONNECTING HARAWIRAS LUNCH WITH A COUSIN GUILTY OF LO RISK ASSAULT WITH PROMOTING MURDEROUS VALUES

    Meanwhile, the Maori Party and its ilk play at gesture politics.
    They campaign for the meaningless a name change to a city, the opportunity to run their own prisons, entertaining thugs at Bellamy's.

    WHAT ILL INFORMED HATEFUL CRAP - THE PARTY MPS ALL HAVE LONG HISTORIES OF SIGNIFICANT WORK AND SERVICE THAT DEMONSTRABLY HAS LIFTED COMMUNITIES ASPIRATIONS AND ACHIEVEMENTS

    Devolution of government services to Maori has been the official policy since 1985. The belief that whanau know best. Has it made any difference? Has it uplifted Maori? Improved Maori health? Has it arrested the swelling underclass?

    YES IT HAS IN MANY CASES - IN CASE LAWS HASN'T NOTICED MANY MAORI ARE DOING BETTER THAN THEIR PREVIOUS GENERATION. WHAT DOES HE WANT A CURE ALL MAGIC WAND

    And the Maori Party won't be making any difference soon."
    YEAH YOU'RE THE EXPERT LAWS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    The Three Strikes idea is appealing and sings a song in my right-wing heart. But gotta wonder - NZ is a pretty peaceful country, yet we imprison more than the Aussies who aren't exactly tolerant. NZ is second only to the USA in the imprisonment stakes.

    Team - summats not right.
    Maybe the answer is in your statement? (is N.Z really still the peaceful country it once was?.....really?)

    The answer is simple, we have more dickheads breaking the law. That's why the numbers are the way they are.

    Yes some places in N.Z are still pretty damn safe, it's the dark areas letting the rest down. Racist statement or not that's the damn truth.
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    Like this is any surprise to anyone. Another crim let loose to prey upon the general public. Hopefully, they'll lock him up for a long, long time...
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