Pakeha world views?

**Trudes** · 31st March 2009, 11:37

Originally Posted by paturoa

I think your job here is done.....

Copy and paste the above posts and hey presto, a "Pakeha World View" will appear.

NOTE OF CAUTION: DO NOT do this - if you submitt this you will get a fail on your assignment, cos although there is likely a lot of honesty in the above you are NOT, I repeat, NOT allowed to say this stuff.......

Isn't that the truth!!! I always have a laugh when I get set assignments on a similar line of thinking, "discuss YOUR view of such and such blah blah blah" I usually end up writing two assignments, one of what I really think and one which I submit of what they want to hear.
I can't afford to repeat papers year after year because I spoke MY mind instead of just regurgitating the brain-washing we are "supposed" to think. Believe me, I have an open mind and have changed my thinking about a lot of issues from what I was "brain-washed" into thinking when I was growing up, but I still have many opinions about things that wouldn't be appreciated by the PC assignment markers and University lecturers.

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 11:57

Originally Posted by Whynot

You mention "Two world views"
I assume this is Maori and Pakeha?

And you are defining "Pakeha" as white, Western European New Zealanders.

I'm struggling to understand how you can put everyone who falls under that bracket into one group.

Surely then you would have 5th generation kiwis in with recently immigrated British, French, Spanish, German, Dutch, Italian, Australian, American, South African people.
All who could be defined as "white, Western European New Zealanders".

I can guarantee a lot of those sub groups have different views and perspectives on the world.

And what about the rest?
Islanders?
Asians
Indians?
Africans?

Do they not matter?

Two world veiws on that was referring to my worldveiw and my agencys worldveiw.

I agree with you in your last statement. I guess the paper is adressing Maori/non Maori or else we will be all day and have a 2000 hour DVD

For sure everyone counts

**Grahameeboy** · 31st March 2009, 12:10

Originally Posted by trump-lady

Two world veiws on that was referring to my worldveiw and my agencys worldveiw.

I agree with you in your last statement. I guess the paper is adressing Maori/non Maori or else we will be all day and have a 2000 hour DVD

For sure everyone counts

I think we are alll equal and should have the same whites....ooopppsss...I mean "rights".

My worldview is that in many cases Maori due to the treaty have greater rights of passage than non Maori....I reckon if I was Maori I would have less hassle with my Daughter's providers who think I don't exist...

They have a Mission Statement for Maori but not Fathers...we all have legal rights be it a treaty or basic Human Rights

**Dave Lobster** · 31st March 2009, 13:49

Originally Posted by Tank

So we are cool to call them black strangers?

No, you're thinking of DRUG DEALERS.

Originally Posted by trump-lady

For the record my father is European and thus so am I. I identify first as being Maori because it is my world view that when people look at me that's what they see. It doesnt mean I don't identify as european but my world view has been shaped by by years of ticking that box!

I think you're mistaken. When people see you, they see a person. Whether you make a good or a bad impression as either a maori or a european will depend on how you conduct yourself when you open your mouth

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 14:01

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

No, you're thinking of DRUG DEALERS.

I think you're mistaken. When people see you, they see a person. Whether you make a good or a bad impression as either a maori or a european will depend on how you conduct yourself when you open your mouth

Perhaps but if someone sees me and I am a lovely tan color and then you say to them "oh youve seen trump-lady. Out of curiousity what is she?" I predict most would say Maori when in fact Im only like a third.

Im not saying its right or wrong Im just saying I am usually identified as Maori.

Bit off topic, I really want YOU GUYS to tell me your worldveiw. Still no pics

Whats most valuable, important to you, and is the under current of all your actions.

**Dave Lobster** · 31st March 2009, 14:18

Originally Posted by trump-lady

Bit off topic, I really want YOU GUYS to tell me your world view. Still no pics

What's most valuable, important to you, and is the under current of all your actions?

Paying the mortgage. Nothing to do with race at all.. sorry to disappoint.

Conversation with someone in England a couple of days ago:
I see the maoris have started beating babies instead of their missus
WHAT??
It's been in the news, the baby killings in NZ.

Seems to have made the news abroad..

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 14:19

Ok I got it if you are inclined to...

Find one picture that tells your world veiw

**sidecar bob** · 31st March 2009, 14:19

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

haven't you just lumped all "Maoris" in together? i.e. done the same thing?

One can understand how that mistsake could be made though.
Maori do tend to regularly refer to themselves collectively as "our people" or more accurately "Ahh pepoow"

**Headbanger** · 31st March 2009, 14:20

Originally Posted by trump-lady

Whats most valuable, important to you, and is the under current of all your actions.

My family. (meaning my wife and children, Not my arsehole brothers,miserable cousins or fuckball uncles and Aunties)

I would give up everything else for there well being. If anyone hurts them then I will avenge them.

Before that I was selfish.

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 14:20

Originally Posted by Dave Lobster

Paying the mortgage. Nothing to do with race at all.. sorry to disappoint.

Conversation with someone in England a couple of days ago:
I see the maoris have started beating babies instead of their missus
WHAT??
It's been in the news, the baby killings in NZ.

Seems to have made the news abroad..

PERFECT! worldveiw isnt about race only.....

and I had that pic on already

A for you

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 14:23

Originally Posted by Headbanger

My family. (meaning my wife and children, Not my arsehole brothers,miserable cousins or fuckball uncles and Aunties)

I would give up everything else for there well being. If anyone hurts them then I will avenge them.

Before that I was selfish.

Im not knocking you this is a very sincere question. Would you call that individualism? Simply because its not quite the same as from a Maori perspective (for some ) because whakapapa goes way way way back but yet it is not the same. Your immediate family is extremely important..but not extended. Is individualism the correct word, are you comfortable with that?

**Headbanger** · 31st March 2009, 14:30

Originally Posted by trump-lady

Im not knocking you this is a very sincere question. Would you call that individualism? Simply because its not quite the same as from a Maori perspective (for some ) because whakapapa goes way way way back but yet it is not the same. Your immediate family is extremely important..but not extended. Is individualism the correct word, are you comfortable with that?

individualism

1.	a social theory advocating the liberty, rights, or independent action of the individual.

2.	the principle or habit of or belief in independent thought or action.

3.	the pursuit of individual rather than common or collective interests; egoism.

4.	individual character; individuality.

5.	an individual peculiarity.

6.

Philosophy.

a.	the doctrine that only individual things are real.

b.	the doctrine or belief that all actions are determined by, or at least take place for, the benefit of the individual, not of society as a whole

Hell yes. Though I believe we still have an obligation to do right by the community we live it. Contribute where required and don't fuck with other people shit.

**Big Dave** · 31st March 2009, 14:33

Originally Posted by trump-lady

Whats most valuable, important to you, and is the under current of all your actions.

That changes through every station of life.

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 14:37

Originally Posted by Big Dave

That changes through every station of life.

Ahh have you done my course Big Dave

Hopefully a social worker can help mould a worldview to maximise positive results. Guess the dvd is trying to teach us that even if right or wrong when dealing with people one must take into account their core beliefs and work with it.

Ok Im thinking family is going to be almost it for everyone. So lets minus family. A pic that represents what you strive to be.....

Ill post up my final vid when Im done

you could become famous