Pakeha world views?

**idb** · 31st March 2009, 20:16

Originally Posted by trump-lady

.... I need to remove my own worldviews opinions and beleifs in this assignment just like I would in my field of work.

That can't be done.
Your interpretation of anything will be partly determined by your own prejudices...or is that prejudi?

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 20:22

Originally Posted by Ocean1

You think that sort of prejudice and bigotry is simply culture or some sort of world view? That you need but adjust your own tolerance for such socially damaging behaviour? It’s neither, you’re pandering to the attitudes and prejudices which no doubt required the services of a social worker in the first place. I’m of the opinion that it very much matters whether they’re right or wrong, when you’re prepared to separate right and wrong behaviour from that driven by legitimate cultural mores you’ll have some chance of making a difference, and not until.

Oh please, you go to the extent of significantly altering your own behaviour to appease your clients AND your management and you’re not a feminist? Grow some balls, be yourself, if that precludes you from working in your chosen field then at least you’ll know who you are.

Trite. I’d translate it into less emotively... indoctrinated terminology. But then, you could do that yourself if you tried eh?

If I have any chance of changing a wrong behaviour or someones destructivness to society I have to understand that persons WV on the matter. It doesnt mean I agree with them or share it. It just helps me decide how to approach it. Catering to them... no because why would I attempt to change a view that wasnt destructive? In attempting to change an attitude have I not already established its destructive, but again I still need their WV to approach it in a meaningful way that is less threatening to them and just might work and hope like crap they respond.

As for your last comment, Ive been in this job for 4 months and I am currently looking a disiplinary action and have been asked to "modify my behaviour" due to my "balls". I apparently dont fit the organisations WV.

As for my clients, same thing. You ganna piss me around then Ill move to the next. I dont do anything for free. You want a food parcel, ok if you get budgeting. I dont appease them but I listen first to see where their WV are and then go to work on that.

Maybe I am a terrible social worker...dunno but for now I just wanna get this assignment done and done well

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 20:26

Originally Posted by McJim

Man that could suck if someone was called Colin Erd and his mates abreviated his first name to Col

Trump-Lady you could win extra points by saying that your research has shown that the worldviews held by those brutally categorised by the name Pakeha are so varied that many of them mirror Maori worldviews.

Can I steal that? I like

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 20:39

Originally Posted by idb

That can't be done.
Your interpretation of anything will be partly determined by your own prejudices...or is that prejudi?

your right.... Im just trying to represent what I have been asked to do in the most fair way possible by getting input and ideas. Origionally I didnt even think of "there is no one pakeha world veiw" or that there is such controversy over calling someone a Pakeha. Never thought of it cause Ive never been called one. Democracy I missed too.Also Womens rights to vote....The comments on here have made me think about that some more and will be added due to Kiwibiker.

I feel like an Muslim trying to give a worldveiw on Asians

**Big Dave** · 31st March 2009, 20:47

Originally Posted by idb

.or is that prejudi?

That's a Popadom.

**idb** · 31st March 2009, 20:51

Originally Posted by Big Dave

That's a Popadom.

The paternal version of femdom?
How do I even know that word?

**98tls** · 31st March 2009, 20:52

Originally Posted by trump-lady

If I have any chance of changing a wrong behaviour or someones destructivness to society I have to understand that persons WV on the matter. It doesnt mean I agree with them or share it. It just helps me decide how to approach it.

Understanding to a degree is easy,changing however is vastly different,expressing your opinion/societies opinion as you view it will in general change nothing,it will however in many cases provide a means to pay a mortgage etc therefore making it a viable proposition which can be justified if need be but still change nothing.Funny ole world eh.

**mowgli** · 31st March 2009, 20:52

Originally Posted by Jantar

You got it batboy. Any racism in New Zealand is being fostered by just the type of assignment that the OP has been given. The sooner that the people who are driving this racial agenda can accept that we are one people in one country, the sooner any racism will disappear.

That'll never happen. There's simply too much money in complaining. Oink!

**McJim** · 31st March 2009, 20:53

Originally Posted by trump-lady

Can I steal that? I like

I hope you do. I think it's symptomatic of the isolated geographic nature of New Zealand that the views of many people here only take into account the world within these shores.

New Zealand has been deeply enriched in the past few decades by people who have travelled to and lived in many different countries and I don't just mean as an OE where they say they went to Europe but only lived in London. I mean people who have been imersed in the cultural underbellies of many different cultures and have a helluva lot of experience to offer. For the most part when we make suggestions to improve the lot of the average Kiwi we are told to either:
a/ Get over it (this means we know there's a problem but we're simply not going to do anything about it coz we've always done things this way)
or
b/ harden the f*ck up (I am afraid so I must show you how macho I am by belittling you and your good idea).

There is an entire World outside your borders - I met a large number of New Zealanders in London. Most of them just wanted to get pissed and party and almost none of them had much Maori blood in them. Why do the Maori not do their OE like the white ones? Maori could benefit by seeing how poor and alcoholic and drug dependant white people can be in their native land. I'd love to take someone from Otara or Mangere and show them Easterhouse or South Nitshill or Wester Hailes just to see the look of shock on their faces.

**Tank** · 31st March 2009, 20:55

Originally Posted by Big Dave

That's a Popadom.

Someone say popadom?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnKMehoLaF8

(sorry it wont let me embed)

**McJim** · 31st March 2009, 21:00

Sorry to butt in again but here's an article that quotes findings from the World Health Organisation
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4629867.ece
I wonder where Mangere and Otara figure when compared to Calton?

**Dave Lobster** · 31st March 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by McJim

I wonder where Mangere and Otara figure when compared to Calton?

It'd be interesting to see if the sort of things that drag Glasgow (etc) down below India are the same in Mangere. ie, poor diet of fatty food, cigarette addiction, alcohol addiction.

Does Glasgow have a pokey machine in every state house?

**Okey Dokey** · 31st March 2009, 21:12

This thread annoys me and I can't quite decide why?

1) there have been too many students asking for help on their assignments here lately?

2) the term Pakeha has no meaning and yet is so offensive?

3) social workers and their training is so PC; but then again, who would want to deal with the folks they see every day?

I don't know... it just bugs me and here I am at a stupid time of night posting about it!!!!

**merv** · 31st March 2009, 21:13

Well I told you my world view on naming cities here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...2&postcount=20 and it is a significant point when the poor old Pakeha in this society (and probably for all Europeans worldwide) seem to have to kowtow to anyone with a darker skin because its not "politically correct" to have your own culture and view ahead of them (the poor downtrodden - yeah right!!).