Taupo track surface?

[FROSTY:Me]

so, why bother mentioning it then??


The point made it is possible and being charged full price for a substandard track is not on, but hey its unzud we accept this shit but why should we?

Can't be that hard to close it and fix it properly . . .

So when dya propose they do this ?
Rephrase that --Track bookings are made 12 months or more in advance in a lot of cases. I was in the situation of having the track closed on the date of a KB trackday. Id booked and paid for the day months in advance . 100 people had organised and paid to be there that day.
This means SOMEHOW the repairs need to be sceduled around the bookings.
This means either a repair that could just rip back up if not given enough time to cure or a bunch of pissed off track users

[Tony.OK]

Hey Im not disagreeing with ya dude. Im just sick and tired of the lack of personal accountability being constantly deomonstrated.

Personal accountability may be fine for a track day Frosty, where the only pressure is on yourself, add a race to the equation and things will be alot different.
I was there last Fri and there was no mention of repairs, no signs saying the track had substandard repairs. Only word of mouth via other riders.
Comparing it to Manfeilds bumps etc is not even close to being the same thing, this was a repair done knowing that it wasn't up to scratch, but acceptable to those with 4 wheels.
Shouldn't we expect better from a track that we are paying to use, this is why we get off the public roads isn't it? If the councils do road repairs aren't they legally obliged to have signs to warn people?

I know they are trying to remedy the problem, and good on them for admitting an error, but givin the potential danger involved it should've been sorted sooner.

Ok tanty over....................lets go racing on Sunday

[FROSTY:Me]

Personal accountability may be fine for a track day Frosty, where the only pressure is on yourself, add a race to the equation and things will be alot different. Why ?--same rules apply ride to the conditions
I was there last Fri and there was no mention of repairs, no signs saying the track had substandard repairs. Only word of mouth via other riders.
Sorry dude but the trackday organiser should have warned you of the issues.
Comparing it to Manfeilds bumps etc is not even close to being the same thing,
this was a repair done knowing that it wasn't up to scratch, but acceptable to those with 4 wheels.

Tony not pointing a finger cos I wasnt there but im amazed the trackday organiser didn't mention the issue in riders brief.

[Danger Dave]

As it went on Friday the first two spills were from what appeared to be eager riders on cold tyres and a cold track, the last one, not to sure what happened there.[/QUOTE]

the back end step out on the repair patch causing a highside.

[Danger Dave]

Tony not pointing a finger cos I wasnt there but im amazed the trackday organiser didn't mention the issue in riders brief.

The issues were metioned in riders briefing and we had to delay the start as the track needed to be sweeped

[Tony.OK]

The issues were metioned in riders briefing and we had to delay the start as the track needed to be sweeped

Ok my bad, must've missed that part.

[Kickaha]

This means SOMEHOW the repairs need to be sceduled around the bookings.
This means either a repair that could just rip back up if not given enough time to cure or a bunch of pissed off track users

The repairs don't need to be scheduled around the bookings

They cancel the bookings, they close the track, they repair it properly and give them enough time before they let vehicles back out on it

Any other way of doing it means a sub standard repair

[Starky307]

As it went on Friday the first two spills were from what appeared to be eager riders on cold tyres and a cold track, the last one, not to sure what happened there.

the back end step out on the repair patch causing a highside.[/QUOTE]

I'll give you that one about the thrid crash as he had stopped moving when I went past, I could of sworn he had binned it before the patch on turn 9 but now thinking about it maybe that is what happened.

[sinfull]

they repair it properly

That remains to be seen !
The chap we spoke to on tuesday night said they put down a test patch of the new "soon to be laid" emulsion and had a car do a burnout on it ! Said patch held up to said burnout, with it (in "His words") shredding the tyre !
Ok cool ! But i'd like to see a patch 12" wide placed on a corner, say T9 and have (mmmmmm someone other than me) go over said patch at full noise on a racebike before they go to the expence and effort of doing said repairs to all the corners ! And who's to say they won't polish off to a glass finish again ? Know it has go worse in the last few months (could it be the temp dropping or the resin polishing up ?)
Sure the chap who was talking about it seemed sure it won't with the grit suspended in the emulsion, but then he probably drives a V8 and don't hold a bike licence !
Would hate to see another fuckup ! But what to do ?

[Robert Taylor]

I totally agree with Frosty re personal accountability, heck fFrosty you must be a card carrying tory like me!!
But there is also a responsibility for track owners to provide a decent facility with a decent surface.
Car racing may bring in the biggest revenue but Im sure these track owners wouldnt like to lose the ( albeit smaller )revenue from motorcycles.
In that light I think they should be more attuned to providing a minimum standard of safety for motorcycles.