Jail rehabilitates and can turn scum into valued members of society.

**Tank** · 30th March 2009, 11:05

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...saulting-woman

or not:

Bailey Junior Kurariki, the country's youngest convicted killer, is back behind bars charged with assaulting a woman.

Kurariki was arrested in South Auckland yesterday on a charge of assaulting Janie Martin, believed to be his girlfriend.

I hope they put him back in prison - cancel his bail and make him serve the full sentence of his crime that he is bail for as well as this.

Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

**MSTRS:Me** · 30th March 2009, 11:08

Yep, like so many others, this guy is a crime just looking for somewhere to happen.

**Swoop** · 30th March 2009, 11:31

Surely not!
The media has repeatedly told us that he is a nice young boy who has said "sorry" and been released.
The media wouldn't lie to us would they?

**Mully** · 30th March 2009, 11:43

Originally Posted by Swoop

Surely not!
The media has repeatedly told us that he is a nice young boy who has said "sorry" and been released.
The media wouldn't lie to us would they?

Of course not.

I was reading the Sunday paper yesterday, and it said Auckland hospital admissions for children in instances of "deliberate injury" were on the rise. I immediately complained about the shoddy reporting, as we have an Anti-smacking Bill which means kids aren't being abused.

**Genestho** · 30th March 2009, 12:05

Originally Posted by Tank

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...saulting-woman

or not:

Bailey Junior Kurariki, the country's youngest convicted killer, is back behind bars charged with assaulting a woman.

Kurariki was arrested in South Auckland yesterday on a charge of assaulting Janie Martin, believed to be his girlfriend.

I hope they put him back in prison - cancel his bail and make him serve the full sentence of his crime that he is bail for as well as this.

Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

Thanks Tank, you reminded me to complete my submission on the bill.
(DONE! Enveloped and ready to send this arvo)

Unfortunately it is "we" that need to keep pushing for this bill to come about.
If we got 30,000 submissions...we will see change.
The beauracrats are open, and have surrounded themselves with people who are listening and open. This time last year, this was not the case.

I'm not an academic, I haven't quoted stats, I have spoken from the heart of what it is like to be affected personally, fear for the future for my kids, and knowing this bill could bring about a certain amount of safety, to all New Zealanders...
This is democracy, and this is a chance to use it.

Submissions due April 24th
Send to:
Committee Secretariat
Law and Order Committee
Parliament Buildings
Wellington
(No stamp required)

**Dooly** · 30th March 2009, 12:21

Everytime this bloke is shown on telly now and before he was released, it was always countered with the pizza guy's mum saying the offender was bad and will reoffend, blah, blah, blah etc.

She was right.
And I suspect most folk knew she was.

**nudemetalz** · 30th March 2009, 12:42

You know, a Barret M107 .50cal sniper rifle has a max range of 6.8km and an effective range of 1.8kms (as in complete accuracy). That is a long way for someone to setup away from the courts buildings entrances and "pick off" some of these scum that are not needed to live anymore......

**slofox** · 30th March 2009, 12:49

He's the latest graduate of the University of Crime...probably enrolled when he was born...

**Mom** · 30th March 2009, 13:07

This young man is a waste of oxygen frankly. All that will happen is he will do the time and be out doing more bad shit in no time. Eventually he will die a violent death, for which there will be yet another waste of space culpable and punished by our injustice system.

Pity of it is there appears to be little if anything that will turn him around, too late for him. Is there a prventative detention option for violent criminals?

Lets hope he meets his maker sooner than later.

**Headbanger** · 30th March 2009, 14:01

Maybe she was asking for it?

**Her_C4** · 30th March 2009, 14:18

No time like the present to make your voice(s) heard....

http://www.safe-nz.org.nz/index.htm

**Winston001** · 30th March 2009, 14:43

Originally Posted by Mully

I was reading the Sunday paper yesterday, and it said Auckland hospital admissions for children in instances of "deliberate injury" were on the rise. I immediately complained about the shoddy reporting, as we have an Anti-smacking Bill which means kids aren't being abused.

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood. The point about the change to Section 59 is that the parents who do the bashing now have a much harder time defending their actions on the basis of "discipline". It won't stop brutal parents, just as the law against domestic violence and assault doesn't stop that happening.

Sorry - hobby-horse kneejerk.

**Winston001** · 30th March 2009, 14:49

Originally Posted by Tank

......Go Rodney - hopefully this would be strike 2. This guy is the kind of shit we need to have back on our streets.

The Three Strikes idea is appealing and sings a song in my right-wing heart. But gotta wonder - NZ is a pretty peaceful country, yet we imprison more than the Aussies who aren't exactly tolerant. NZ is second only to the USA in the imprisonment stakes.

Team - summats not right.

**Mully** · 30th March 2009, 14:49

Originally Posted by Winston001

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood. The point about the change to Section 59 is that the parents who do the bashing now have a much harder time defending their actions on the basis of "discipline". It won't stop brutal parents, just as the law against domestic violence and assault doesn't stop that happening.

Sorry - hobby-horse kneejerk.

No dramas. Personally, I think the defence was based on reasonable force, rather than discipline per se.

At the risk of taking this off topic (mods, feel free to move this if you want) I think a much better idea would have been to have clarified the definition of "reasonable" in "reasonable force". Something along the lines of "an open-handed slap to the legs, buttocks, arms, or hands"

I think Bradford could have had most of country on her side if they'd done that, instead of ramming it down everyone's throats.

Sorry, everyone. As you were.

**Tank** · 30th March 2009, 14:49

Originally Posted by Winston001

The anti-child abuse amendment has been misunderstood. The point about the change to Section 59 is that the parents who do the bashing now have a much harder time defending their actions on the basis of "discipline". It won't stop brutal parents, just as the law against domestic violence and assault doesn't stop that happening.

Sorry - hobby-horse kneejerk.

Like this bloke who flicked his kids ear? : http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/1562476