Regular weekend rides

[p.dath]

Anyone heading to ART day?

What time are you leaving, and from where?

I'll be leaving from the North Shore. Haven't decided on time yet. Probably 7am.

[BoristheBiter]

Of course.... Hey that reverse Raindance is really working.. were now down to cloudy clearing for Sunday and wet Sat!!

I think you should stop, its now going to rain all day.

[zealchick]

I think you should stop, its now going to rain all day.

nuh ah the forecast i am looking at is looking more like showers and getting better, Keep it up and all join in

[BoristheBiter]

nuh ah the forecast i am looking at is looking more like showers and getting better, Keep it up and all join in

Metservice 7 day forecast. it was looking like showers but now rain and getting heaver.

http://www.metservice.com/national/m...forecast-7-day

Hopefully it either takes longer to get here or moves further east.

[R-Soul]

[OutForADuck]

Oh my god I've caused mass histeria... Nice to have company though

[Latte]

That's fantastic guys. Thank you for the feedback, makes the effort of putting it together worthwhile

I'm progressively adding to it as I get time, so worth the visit back from time to time. (Well I hope anyway).

See you guys out there on Sunday.

Wish you'd written the traction one about a week earlier - now that one rings real true

[OCD Legend]

Wish you'd written the traction one about a week earlier - now that one rings real true

well yeah I have been doing some of OFAD readings also - maybe I shouldn't have skipped to the handlebars - I was feeling good about my countersteering today until I found myself on top of a small hill with my bike on the ground

maybe I should start reading at the beginning...

[OutForADuck]

maybe I should start reading at the beginning...

There is no teacher like experience

Hiss... What you do mate?

[Maha]

well yeah I have been doing some of OFAD readings also - maybe I shouldn't have skipped to the handlebars - I was feeling good about my countersteering today until I found myself on top of a small hill with my bike on the ground

maybe I should start reading at the beginning...

As opposed to leading at the end?....

[javawocky]

Everyone has an opinion.. mine can be found here Riding Articles

Great Stuff! Keep me up till early this morning.

Loading inside peg, call me a noob, but thats news to me. On the brief commute I tried it and sure enough, the bike carved a tighter more stable line through the corner. Obviously need more experimentation with this one.

Other thing, the clutchless upshift. In my MX days it was once in vogue but then our fat next door neighbor, who knew everything, said to my my father - cluches are cheaper than gear boxes, and offered a graphic images of weak little selectors engaging hot swetty gears turning at incredible RPMs - This ushered in the Keep it open wide and and clutch change, which work find on a 2 stroke 125 which doesn't have a rev limiter.

What was missing from my knowledge banks was the applying pressure to the leaver before backing off the throttle. Also the bit about being able to change a lower RPMs, I thought it was just for wide open track work.

Tried it from 2nd up this morning and found a) gear changed very smoothly and quickly b) coming back on the throttle was a little violent - like when you suddenly snap the throttle on. It didn't take me long before I realized that I was shutting the throttle off too much, and the last few changes were silky smooth and quick.

I have some handling questions, but I might pm them to ya later, don't want to clog up this form now do we

[BoristheBiter]

Great Stuff! Keep me up till early this morning.

Loading inside peg, call me a noob, but thats news to me. On the brief commute I tried it and sure enough, the bike carved a tighter more stable line through the corner. Obviously need more experimentation with this one.

Other thing, the clutchless upshift. In my MX days it was once in vogue but then our fat next door neighbor, who knew everything, said to my my father - cluches are cheaper than gear boxes, and offered a graphic images of weak little selectors engaging hot swetty gears turning at incredible RPMs - This ushered in the Keep it open wide and and clutch change, which work find on a 2 stroke 125 which doesn't have a rev limiter.

What was missing from my knowledge banks was the applying pressure to the leaver before backing off the throttle. Also the bit about being able to change a lower RPMs, I thought it was just for wide open track work.

Tried it from 2nd up this morning and found a) gear changed very smoothly and quickly b) coming back on the throttle was a little violent - like when you suddenly snap the throttle on. It didn't take me long before I realized that I was shutting the throttle off too much, and the last few changes were silky smooth and quick.

I have some handling questions, but I might pm them to ya later, don't want to clog up this form now do we

While doing the pumice blast trail ride last year it was complete mud and with a few offs, my left arm cramped every time I pulled the lever in.
Spent the last 20 or so km's changing up and down without using the clutch no problems.

[Reckless]

Just for your info guys in my many years of karting the first thing we did to gain more power was remove the clutch basket completely! We do many many thousands of gear changes in a race kart! The trick is to change while there is no weight on the engine. Never had a gearbox disintegrate!

On the MX bike 50% of my changes are zero throttle clutchless changes (up and down). On the road bike I generally always use the clutch I think the gears maybe cut a little different on a road bike as apposed to an MX bike and quite frankly there's no need to treat your bike like that on the road and still go really fast.

Anyway just a few comments!

[javawocky]

Just for your info guys in my many years of karting the first thing we did to gain more power was remove the clutch basket completely! We do many many thousands of gear changes in a race kart! The trick is to change while there is no weight on the engine. Never had a gearbox disintegrate!

On the MX bike 50% of my changes are zero throttle clutchless changes (up and down). On the road bike I generally always use the clutch I think the gears maybe cut a little different on a road bike as apposed to an MX bike and quite frankly there's no need to treat your bike like that on the road and still go really fast.

Anyway just a few comments!

The first time I was at Hamptondowns I had an SV1000 and it was the last time I attempted the clutchless shift as my clutch hand was getting powned! I kept stuffing up the changes and sometimes not getting a change going etc because of the massive torque going through the gearbox on the SV - but here I wasn't pretensioning the gear leave which I think is the key.

[Reckless]

The first time I was at Hamptondowns I had an SV1000 and it was the last time I attempted the clutchless shift as my clutch hand was getting powned! I kept stuffing up the changes and sometimes not getting a change going etc because of the massive torque going through the gearbox on the SV - but here I wasn't pretensioning the gear leave which I think is the key.

Actually my opinion is pretensioning the gear lever puts weight on the selectors gears etc while the engine is under power which is not good imho? Only do it occasionally off the start line on the MX bike. My changes tend to be zero throttle ones like in the kart. The changes in the kart where off the gas, pull the lever (or steering wheel paddle), on the gas, done very often, very quickly. Changing down was, off the gas, punch down 3 or 4 gears (while braking or chucking it sideways), on the gas. I doubt there's many situations that put more pressure on a gearbox then in a methanol powered race kart LOL!! Although I've been doing it so long I'm not quite sure how anymore?? I do know they are smooth and any other way I consider to be hard on the box? Just my 2c??

Your right about the SV it don't like clutchless shifts LOL!!

Oh EDIT your probably correct on a re read of my post and yours its probably not right of the gas so the bike decelerates but enough to take the weight of the engine so the change can be smooth to the next gear! Dunno technique and timing (Like sex) haha!!