Regular weekend rides

[yachtie10]

What happened to you Yachtie... we waited around for a while but in the end decided something must have come up for you?

I posted up (read back)
I have been unwell all week and didnt feel confident enough to get that far from a toilet

[R-Soul]

Hopefully R Sole will make it along to the NASS ride this time ...

I will try - but browine points are few and far between with a pregnant wife... its like blood out of a stone..

[p.dath]

I will try - but browine points are few and far between with a pregnant wife... its like blood out of a stone..

Unfortunately for me it took years of mariage before I learned life was much better without her. I'll let you learn the hard way.

[yachtie10]

Unfortunately for me it took years of mariage before I learned life was much better without her. I'll let you learn the hard way.

you cynical old bastard. even im not that bad
grass is always greener you know

[R-Soul]

that did give me a bit of a scare at the intersection.
I know i am still new but your lines into right hand corners seemed a bit tight (close to the center line), try staying out wider a bit longer.

Thanks man - yeah I went onto the line a couple of times...
I was focussing on trying to get my body opposition the right way (like I had seen doing some CSS research on Youtube - the hip flick, the knee switch, the kiss the mirror, the opening my inside hip to the corner etc). Geez my mind was all over the place - it became like golf with all the rules and stuff to think about (but much more fun and with a pulse).

I was not allowing myself to ride faster (I still am very cautious on roads - I ride like a dog is going to jump out at any second- cause it could) because of the technique, but I did feel a lot more confident at the speeds that I normally do.
I do think the stuff I was trying was allowing this.

I flet like I could ride a lot faster, and if I did, I could get my knee down easy. I just am not prepared to do it at high speed on the road - I should just go do it in the car park I guess.

One day I hop eto actually go the CSS and not just try and steal ideas from their website of course...

[R-Soul]

you cynical old bastard. even im not that bad
grass is always greener you know

Im praying its a pregnancy thing... I gotta feel for her- she is one of thopse people that gets morning sickness 24/7 for 9 months...
Same thing with our other two.

[R-Soul]

that did give me a bit of a scare at the intersection.
I know i am still new but your lines into right hand corners seemed a bit tight (close to the center line), try staying out wider a bit longer.

And right turns are my bogey side. Not sure why?

[p.dath]

Thanks man - yeah I went onto the line a couple of times...
I was focussing on trying to get my body opposition the right way (like I had seen doing some CSS research on Youtube - the hip flick, the knee switch, the kiss the mirror, the opening my inside hip to the corner etc). Geez my mind was all over the place - it became like golf with all the rules and stuff to think about (but much more fun and with a pulse).

Until you get the cornering lines right forget about everything else you mentioned. It's like building a house. You have to get the foundations right before you start building on top.

[p.dath]

you cynical old bastard. even im not that bad
grass is always greener you know

Nope, don't want to be going back to the old pitch. Found a much better field to play on now.

[BoristheBiter]

Thanks man - yeah I went onto the line a couple of times...
I was focussing on trying to get my body opposition the right way (like I had seen doing some CSS research on Youtube - the hip flick, the knee switch, the kiss the mirror, the opening my inside hip to the corner etc). Geez my mind was all over the place - it became like golf with all the rules and stuff to think about (but much more fun and with a pulse).

I was not allowing myself to ride faster (I still am very cautious on roads - I ride like a dog is going to jump out at any second- cause it could) because of the technique, but I did feel a lot more confident at the speeds that I normally do.
I do think the stuff I was trying was allowing this.

I flet like I could ride a lot faster, and if I did, I could get my knee down easy. I just am not prepared to do it at high speed on the road - I should just go do it in the car park I guess.

One day I hop eto actually go the CSS and not just try and steal ideas from their website of course...

like pdath said don.'t worry about trying to move around on your bike.

I tryed it down at Manfield raceway but as i had no clue what i was doing it made my corners worse, to much to think of.

after you went back i just stuck behind duck, i never moved around on the bike and never went much faster than we had previously in the ride.
I too had thought that to go faster around a corner you had to get the knee down, but as it has been shown and been taught this is far from the case.

You should come on more of these rides and try and get some track time (you don't need to go fast to learn) as in the year that MrsB and myself have been riding the knowledge that we have learned from riding behind and asking good riders (not just ones whom go fast) has been invaluable. this is one of the reasons I sit at the back, I follow my own speed and get my lines right getting faster will come later.
So thanks to all that I have pested for information, it is much appreciated.

[BoristheBiter]

Nope, don't want to be going back to the old pitch. Found a much better field to play on now.

it took me two goes to get it right. like they say "it's hard to find the perfect woman"

[R-Soul]

like pdath said don.'t worry about trying to move around on your bike.

I tryed it down at Manfield raceway but as i had no clue what i was doing it made my corners worse, to much to think of.

after you went back i just stuck behind duck, i never moved around on the bike and never went much faster than we had previously in the ride.
I too had thought that to go faster around a corner you had to get the knee down, but as it has been shown and been taught this is far from the case.

You should come on more of these rides and try and get some track time (you don't need to go fast to learn) as in the year that MrsB and myself have been riding the knowledge that we have learned from riding behind and asking good riders (not just ones whom go fast) has been invaluable. this is one of the reasons I sit at the back, I follow my own speed and get my lines right getting faster will come later.
So thanks to all that I have pested for information, it is much appreciated.

The only thing is that when riding on the road, I pretty much stick to the middle of the lane, occasionally moving to the inside of a corner (and occasionally over it when distarcted). But as far as learning cornering lines, I am bit hesitanton the road. I ride the lines (and speed) that I feel will give me most options to move from - because you might have a nice racing line at speed, but that gives you very few options to change your line (eg when all of a sudden there is a big pothole where you are supposed to be riding?).

I would like to go to the track where I could maybe feel that I would not be restricted by worry that a dog or a tractor is around the next bend, where you know what the next corner is, and that there are no potholes - or trees at the side of the road if you screw up. I think I would be more prepared to try racing lines then...

I appreciate that for the road, the best technique is to wait as late as you can into corners to see whats around them. I do this most days commuting to work. Although as I say, my bogey side is to the right.

[R-Soul]

Until you get the cornering lines right forget about everything else you mentioned. It's like building a house. You have to get the foundations right before you start building on top.

Talking of foundations: How was the RRRs course?
Did you learn much?

[OutForADuck]

R.Sole, you seriously should consider doing some of the ART Days... a Track day with training and instructors. Its a much better environment to move you forward than the road or a normal track day where everyone is just out to go as fast as they can.

Take a look at ART Days and also search on here for "Art Days" you'll find lots of independent feedback about the days.

I'll declare I am biased because I am involved and beleive we are doing a good job... search the forums and pester others.

[R-Soul]

R.Sole, you seriously should consider doing some of the ART Days... a Track day with training and instructors. Its a much better environment to move you forward than the road or a normal track day where everyone is just out to go as fast as they can.

Take a look at ART Days and also search on here for "Art Days" you'll find lots of independent feedback about the days.

I'll declare I am biased because I am involved and beleive we are doing a good job... search the forums and pester others.

Yup I am definitely going on the next one (18 April I think) - I just need to wait for payday again...
I could not go before as I did not have the riding kit. Its been a slow buildup.