Please - career advice

[R6_kid:Me]

Lawyers with life experience are better lawyers than 23yo freshies straight out of uni. If law is what you want to do then do the study and get your required qualifications.

All you need to do is be true to yourself, if you come back and find law isn't for you, so what? Look for the next option and go for it.

The worst thing you can do is nothing, then you'd be just as bad as skidmark.

[justsomeguy]

Thanks guys.

After more self exploration and talking to people - what I've learnt is that I don't want to be a "lawyer" - I just want a high paying job - and law perfectly suits someone like me.

Later on I want to set up my company - and am looking to build some foundational skills in the following areas:

1. Salesmanship - got natural skills
2. Understand People - figuring this out through self study (not a book - but studying the world around me - I go out pretty much 4-5 nights a week and a few days too)
3. Gain a technical skill - This is where the law degree comes in. I am not passionate about IT - but like the legal profession, the lifestyle, the life...so law looks good.

[justsomeguy]

look me up when u get back in aks Ujwal,



F/F

Will do Dave.

Look forward to meeting you regardless.

Uj

[justsomeguy]

See, this is where the message between "Qualification" and "Fulfilling Career" gets so messed up.

Yaa -- want a high paying job - I've always seen work as work...

Not interested so much in that as I am in "play".

I need a high income - I have an incurable affinity to the finer things in life.

[justsomeguy]

Lawyers with life experience are better lawyers than 23yo freshies straight out of uni. If law is what you want to do then do the study and get your required qualifications.

All you need to do is be true to yourself, if you come back and find law isn't for you, so what? Look for the next option and go for it.

The worst thing you can do is nothing, then you'd be just as bad as skidmark.

Thanks G.

How you been? Long time......

A new friend of mine - met him at a sales conference recently - is a lawyer who explained the lifestyle -

The top firms want the younger kids because they LACK life experience - so their personalities can be moulded into what the lawfirm considers best - they also don't have anything else going on in life and are happy to work 100 hours a week.

I still haven't gotten into law school -need to send them my old transcripts.

[vtec]

I've also got tertiary qualifications. But I can't sit still all day in an office. I'm on an OE at the moment, having some fun. When I get back I'm thinking of doing some hard labour like learning reinforcing steel placing as a trade. Seems simple enough, and with my Quantity Surveying/Estimating and contacts in the industry would give me scope to possibly start a subcontracting company.

Could you really tolerate years of studying something as bureaucratic and soul destroying as law? Don't torture yourself.

[Taz]

Get a factory shift work job..... Pay is great.

[SPman]

The top firms want the younger kids because they LACK life experience - so their personalities can be moulded into what the lawfirm considers best - they also don't have anything else going on in life and are happy to work 100 hours a week.

U - Law isn't a direct path into big money - you have to be able to put up with shit like the above for years to get anywhere in the big firms. Know several people with law degrees and it's been a hard struggle for them to claw their way into reasonable positions in a shitty profession! You're still young mate, do the law degree if you want, but the main thing is to get a good grounding in life skills at the same time. Do things with an end goal in mind, but don't restrict yourself - you never really know how your life may twist and turn.....
Vtec - learning reo placing takes about a day and it's a shitty job (I've done it) One of the (few) good things about being a QS is that you don't need a total scrub down at the end of every day........

[justsomeguy]

U - Law isn't a direct path into big money - you have to be able to put up with shit like the above for years to get anywhere in the big firms. Know several people with law degrees and it's been a hard struggle for them to claw their way into reasonable positions in a shitty profession! You're still young mate, do the law degree if you want, but the main thing is to get a good grounding in life skills at the same time. Do things with an end goal in mind, but don't restrict yourself - you never really know how your life may twist and turn.....
Vtec - learning reo placing takes about a day and it's a shitty job (I've done it) One of the (few) good things about being a QS is that you don't need a total scrub down at the end of every day........

Thanks J,

Truth of the matter is I don't know what I want - based on what I know - law seems appropriate...

Yeah, it's not a direct route - but is one of the few fields where 6 figure salaries are available in 3 years.

Then there are the chances to study and work abroad...

Vtec - almost all jobs are bureaucratic - might as well get into one that lets us have a full tank of gas ....

[Edbear]

At 27 you have your whole life ahead of you, 31 is young. You need to decide what you actually want to do and DO IT! Follow through and DO IT! Reading your post it seems to me you have decided on a path anyway. Follow it! Dont look back, or sideways, focus on where you want to be and get there. This applies to your career as much as to your personal life.

My experience for what it is worth...

Set some goals, find out what you have to do to achieve them, find out how you can achieve them, start working towards them, achieve them!

Mom's got good advice...I'd listen to her...

Just you do whatever you want to do.........I think job satisfaction is more important than money....sure money is good but only if you enjoy the work as well. No point in being miserable at work.....


Retraining and/or changing careers is fine. I am in my fourth type of career move and doing great........and contemplating changing again at a ripe old age.


so go for it........just whatever you do make sure you do it great.

Also good advice! I've found a job I really enjoy, though the pay's not great. I look upon it as semi-retirement at my age. Busy, lots to learn, but a great atmosphere and I get to ride my bike everyday, gasbag on the phone to people all over NZ, (and even Aus.), and get told by customers that I'm "Darling!" - Okay she was an older lady, but I sorted out a little issue for her and saved her lots of money...

Do a job you really enjoy and if the challenge appeals and you think you'd be good at it, do it!

[Fatjim]

Where people make money is when they are passionate about something. It gives them the extra drive to work longer hours, produce a quality product or service and love doing it the whole time.

Unless of course your in IT. There, the laziest good for nothing shit for brains make the most money.

[McJim]

If you have no children then go and study. I took a year out from education to decide what I really wanted to study. That was in 1988 and I haven't been back to Uni yet.

[justsomeguy]

Unless of course your in IT. There, the laziest good for nothing shit for brains make the most money.

Tell me bout it - IT recruitment for two years - couldn't believe the kind of people commanding AU$1000+ a day for their tech skills.

[justsomeguy]

If you have no children then go and study. I took a year out from education to decide what I really wanted to study. That was in 1988 and I haven't been back to Uni yet.

No kids, no serious girl friend and no plans to have either for a long, long, long time.

It's too much fun being single.

[jrandom]

What never fails to amaze me is how many people throw their lives away in soul-destroying jobs that they hate (the profession of law comes to mind), just so that they can have a certain amount of money to spend in the remaining minority of their time.

Newsflash, people: What you're doing every day is your life. Why not do something that you actually enjoy?