Auckland Supercity

[Mully]

Don't agree. Racism surely describes treating differently because of colour/ethnicity. Generally used to describe poor treatment, but equally relevant when used in the context of special treatment. Like Maori-only seats etc. Racism is 'any' different treatment or request for different treatment because of race. And it is alive and well in NZ courtesy of all, Sharples et al.

I concur with the honourable gentleman (and with MSTRS too).

I did see a political commentator in the States ask if it was less racist to vote for Obama because he's black than it would have been to not vote for him because he's black.

[MSTRS:Me]

I concur with the honourable gentleman (and with MSTRS too).

I did see a political commentator in the States ask if it was less racist to vote for Obama because he's black than it would have been to not vote for him because he's black.

Any vote for or against Obama because of his colour would be racist. In equal measure.

Further to my post, I would add that anything that excludes or separates because of colour etc, is racist. INclusion is the only answer...and that on the basis of merit. Nothing else.
Won't ever happen in NZ. Sharples etc will see to that.
Welcome to Apartheid, New Zealand-style.

[Maha]

Auckland...Supercity??? or just plain SuperShitty!


It wont be any different to before, will still be a place that I avoid or drive through...

So you have no desire to ever enjoy the wonders that are north of Auckland?
That means you will have pass through (albeit like a big fat turd) Auckland to do so.

[Slyer]

Any vote for or against Obama because of his colour would be racist. In equal measure.

Further to my post, I would add that anything that excludes or separates because of colour etc, is racist. INclusion is the only answer...and that on the basis of merit. Nothing else.
Won't ever happen in NZ. Sharples etc will see to that.
Welcome to Apartheid, New Zealand-style.

Agree about the merit, I use that word all the time about this sort of thing.

[Bren]

So you have no desire to ever enjoy the wonders that are north of Auckland?
That means you will have pass through (albeit like a big fat turd) Auckland to do so.

Maha, I quite often drive north of Auckland, in actual fact quite often I end up at Leigh, just past your stomping ground....and as soon as I leave Orewa behind I let out a huge sigh of relief...


My folks are up at Leigh just in case you were wondering...

[Maha]

Maha, I quite often drive north of Auckland, in actual fact quite often I end up at Leigh, just past your stomping ground....and as soon as I leave Orewa behind I let out a huge sigh of relief...


My folks are up at Leigh just in case you were wondering...

Call in anytime Bren....I am with ya on the 'leaving' bit, my attitude changes as Auckland approaches, or I approach it? but soon after (either end of the motorway) I resume the calm me.....

[Winston001]

Don't agree. Racism surely describes treating differently because of colour/ethnicity. Generally used to describe poor treatment, but equally relevant when used in the context of special treatment......

Understand how you feel but we can't just redefine words to suit our ourselves. What you refer to is "preferential treatment upon the basis of race/ethnicity". At the moment can't think of one word to sum that up, someone else may.

Oxford English Dictionary:

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Racism is pejorative. It arose in the 1930s in the context of Nazi policies of Aryan superiority, and the inferiority of other races, notably blacks and Jews.

There is no positive connotation with the word.

By all means argue against preferential treatment for Maori, no problem with that - but it aint racism. Nothing to do with it, quite the opposite.


EDIT
Just found the full OED definition which only subscribers can get:

RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]

a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM.

1936 L. DENNIS Coming Amer. Fascism 109 If..it be assumed that one of our values should be a type of racism which excludes certain races from citizenship, then the plan of execution should provide for the annihilation, deportation, or sterilization of the excluded races. 1938 E. & C. PAUL tr. Hirschfeld's Racism xx. 260 The apostles and energumens of racism can in all good faith give free rein to impulses of which they would be ashamed did they realise their true nature. 1940 R. BENEDICT Race: Science & Politics i. 7 Racism is an ism to which everyone in the world today is exposed. 1952 M. BERGER Equality by Statute 236 Racism, tension in industrial, urban areas. 1952 Theology LV. 283 The idolatry of our timeits setting up of nationalism, racism, vulgar materialism. 1960 New Left Rev. Jan./Feb. 21/2 George Rogers saw fit to kow-tow to the incipient racism of his electorate by including a line about getting rid of �undesirable elements�. 1964 GOULD & KOLB Dict. Social Sci. 571/2 Racism is a newer term for the word racialism... There is virtual agreement that it refers to a doctrine of racial supremacy. 1971 Ceylon Daily News (Colombo) 18 Sept. 8/5 Mr. Seneviratne is welcome to his ideal of inter-racial marriages as panacea for Racism. 1972 J. L. DILLARD Black English iii. 90 In the British sailors' reactions to the slaves.., the very early existence of racism is as well documented as the difference in language. 1974 M. FIDO R. Kipling 50/2 In The Story of Muhammad Din he wrote one of the most economical and bitter attacks on British racism ever penned. 1976 Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio) 4 Mar. A2/4 The Vatican radio said,..�Racism might have different faces but it will always be reprehensible.� 1977 M. WALKER National Front vi. 155 A strike of the Asian workers against racism in the factory.

[Usarka]

A is for Auckland, that's good enough for me
R is for ratepayers thats what we all be
S is for super that's good enough for me
E is for evil that's what our mayor will be

Merry biscuits everyone!

[98tls]

Any vote for or against Obama because of his colour would be racist. In equal measure.

Further to my post, I would add that anything that excludes or separates because of colour etc, is racist. INclusion is the only answer...and that on the basis of merit. Nothing else.
Won't ever happen in NZ. Sharples etc will see to that.
Welcome to Apartheid, New Zealand-style.

Amen to that.

[P38]

Nu uh dude - we're Super JAFAs now... so best you watch it...!

Lol

Giant OJ's