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    Is it about numbers ? ie road racing currently seems to be attracting a fraction of the entrys that MX/offroad racing is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Is it about numbers ? ie road racing currently seems to be attracting a fraction of the entrys that MX/offroad racing is?
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    sorry bob but entry numbers compared to a big mx meeting are still sod all
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Is it about numbers ? ie road racing currently seems to be attracting a fraction of the entrys that MX/offroad racing is?
    It's been like that as long as I can remember
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Is it about numbers ? ie road racing currently seems to be attracting a fraction of the entrys that MX/offroad racing is?
    They are as different as chalk & cheese, & any comparison between them is totally irrelevant.
    The only common link is that they are governed by the same body, which nobody seems to know why it actually needs to exist anyway. And clearly MX is a far better money spinner for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    Who do we have to choose from??
    Someone needs to nominate Peter 'red' Fenton....and then we should all vote for him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHOPPA View Post
    I dont know whats happened but just from my own dealings and conversations with Paul P he seemed like a really good guy and we had a good conversation on the way he thinks superbike racing should be going and he had some really good ideas
    Choppa, dont be fooled. This is the same guy that told a meeting of distributors that ''they were putting peanuts into racing'' They were very insulted and its only because of good people such as Paul Stewart, Warren New and Guy Merewether that they didnt collectively pull out on the spot.
    Paul has good intentions but the way he wants to go about it demonstrates that he either doesnt know about the suspension and tyre interaction dynamics of high powered race bikes or doesnt want to know.
    MNZ is supposed to be a democracy, its not, its an autocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    Is it about numbers ? ie road racing currently seems to be attracting a fraction of the entrys that MX/offroad racing is?
    It always has attracted a fraction compared to puddle jumpers and probably always will because its a more technical sport and always has been.
    It seems that some people are advocating ill though out changes because of thin fields. But has anyone watched Formula Ford and Toyota Racing Series on the box very recently? The fields are thin in many auto racing classes as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    They are as different as chalk & cheese, & any comparison between them is totally irrelevant.
    The only common link is that they are governed by the same body, which nobody seems to know why it actually needs to exist anyway. And clearly MX is a far better money spinner for them.
    Assisted by the money that has been raped from road racing, another reason for yesterdays resignation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowpoos View Post
    Someone needs to nominate Peter 'red' Fenton....and then we should all vote for him!
    Yes, that would be a great choice, I will talk to him. Anyone that attains the position will either have to be a puppet to the Ayotollah at the top or be prepared to go into battle and stand fast.

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    I take it by your comment Robert that Peter Fenton is a stand fast and fight sort of guy.
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    Maybe us dumb arse riders need to show Paul more support. The AGM is the place for this to happen but in the meantime let Paul know that we all support both him and his band of merry men. We whole heartedly do not support what is happening here. Come on guys swamp MNZ office with your emails to support Paul and his crew. No good will come out of whats happening here. I know Shaun Harris tried to warn us all a few years ago that this would happen. Well pull finger out and let MNZ know what you want and how it should be!!!! PAUL STEWART AND HIS CREW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Choppa, dont be fooled. This is the same guy that told a meeting of distributors that ''they were putting peanuts into racing'' They were very insulted and its only because of good people such as Paul Stewart, Warren New and Guy Merewether that they didnt collectively pull out on the spot.
    Paul has good intentions but the way he wants to go about it demonstrates that he either doesnt know about the suspension and tyre interaction dynamics of high powered race bikes or doesnt want to know.
    MNZ is supposed to be a democracy, its not, its an autocracy.
    +1 On that. The really laughable part is that from what I gather 'that guy' (PP) is the very reason that many distributors and other likely sponsors aren't more involved than they are now, economic climate etc excepted.
    And anyway the reality of the NZ motorcycling scene is that most if not all of the bike and accessory distributors are small businesses without the huge budgets that some seem to think they have at their disposal.
    Both organisers/promoters and individual riders and teams should be looking outside the motorcycle industry for any major backing not only for the bigger dollars that are often available, but also the marketing clout and network contacts that most of the big corporates have It's amazing the deals that can be done with inter connected companies, often it's just a case of knowing (or getting to know) the right people.
    It's much easier for motorcycle industry companies to put money into off-road racing as that is much closer to their core market which is of course the rural sector. As most of us realise bike distributors wouldn't exist without ATV & farm bike sales, so it makes sense to support a sport that has roots in and often depends upon the farming sector for both financial and land access support.

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    Does Mr Stewart need MNZ? Do any of us actually NEED MNZ? what do they do for us that we arent already doing for ourselves?
    Serious questions which need serious answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    It always has attracted a fraction compared to puddle jumpers and probably always will because its a more technical sport and always has been.
    It seems that some people are advocating ill though out changes because of thin fields. But has anyone watched Formula Ford and Toyota Racing Series on the box very recently? The fields are thin in many auto racing classes as well.
    Not to totally disagree, but the car racing scene is much healthier than watching those two classes would have you think. The TRS series has been affected by a shortage of drivers with the suitable skills as well as and more to the point a lack of sponsorship $$ for what is not a cheap class of racing.
    Sponsors not wanting to put money into a class that does not receive as much mainstream coverage.
    Conversely the Porsche series has been attracting drivers due to a combination of better signage space on the cars, a car the public and sponsors can identify with that's loud, fast and exciting. Add to this the opportunities available to drivers to compete overseas in similar Porsche series overseas and you can see why it's so successful as a worldwide series.

    The NZV8's are suffering a little, due in no small part to the sheer number of major sponsors and team owners involved in the building trade which of course is suffering a tad right now. But...most of the club level and meetings just down the tier from the premier series above are generally well supported, at least by competitors if not spectators.

    Right now MNZ needs to have good people working together to improve the sport and cut through the red tape and do whatever it takes to get decent money involved, so that facilities & safety can be upgraded where required, get a top notch promoter involved get decent, exciting TV coverage and engage the public's excitement.
    We need outward looking people with can do attitudes rather than inward looking meddlers.

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