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    Moto2 goes single engine but not tyres

    Looks like Moto2 will be a single engine. Between two suppliers... Wonder who?

    http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/M...ngine+supplier

    No talk of a single tyre rule though.

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    Its Honda - it was announced at the weekend.

    See here


    150BHP from a 600 - Can I have one please ??

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    Bet it's just the 600rr engine worked over.

    The 600rr is like 125hp at the crank or something so must be close to 140hp in WSS form. Can't be that hard to get another 10hp out of it with some custom parts.

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    My inside man at MotoGP says they're about 150hp.

    Curiously one of the supporters of the single engine was Ducati, a they didn't want to commit to a new engine.

    Currently it's looking like the grid will be oversubscribed as entry will be granted to existing 250 teams first. They don't want to force existing teams to abondon their Aprillias, and also don't want to poach SS teams from other championships.

    So I guess that means we get 28 machines on the grid at the start, most of which will be 250's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    My inside man at MotoGP says they're about 150hp.

    Curiously one of the supporters of the single engine was Ducati, a they didn't want to commit to a new engine.

    Currently it's looking like the grid will be oversubscribed as entry will be granted to existing 250 teams first. They don't want to force existing teams to abondon their Aprillias, and also don't want to poach SS teams from other championships.

    So I guess that means we get 28 machines on the grid at the start, most of which will be 250's.
    I dunno, with the disparity between a factory Aprilia and a customer bike, and the crazy price of the fuggin' things I can see a few teams fancying their chances of getting Harris, or Bakker or some other clever engineer to wrap a sexy frame around the new engine and getting a jump on those who delay the switch.

    I can see some pretty intense testing going on between hotted up CBR600's and Aprilia RSW/RSA 250's going on all over the world as teams weigh up their options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    I dunno, with the disparity between a factory Aprilia and a customer bike, and the crazy price of the fuggin' things I can see a few teams fancying their chances of getting Harris, or Bakker or some other clever engineer to wrap a sexy frame around the new engine and getting a jump on those who delay the switch.

    I can see some pretty intense testing going on between hotted up CBR600's and Aprilia RSW/RSA 250's going on all over the world as teams weigh up their options.
    You could be right, because the deal with the engines is very generous. Basically MotoGP buys the engines and gives them to the teams, and at the end of the season, the teams get to keep them.

    However if your spent squillions on yer factory Aprillia or clone, which there is now no market for, you'd be tempted to hang on to it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    However if your spent squillions on yer factory Aprillia or clone, which there is now no market for, you'd be tempted to hang on to it...
    If the Moto2's are quick they'll take over very quickly. No point holding on to a very expensive slow bike.

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    Read something recently that compared World Supersport times with 250GP times at the same circuits. In most cases the 600's are only a couple of secs slower a lap then the 250's. Given WSS use street tyres and are 40kg heavier than the new GP2 minimum weight, this difference will be made up and then some. I think it'll be like the first year of Moto GP with 990's and 500's running together. It was pretty obvious straight away that the 500's were dead.

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    Comparative Phillip Island fastest race lap record times are...


    Moto GP. 1.30.059
    Superbike. 1.31.829
    250cc. 1.32.710
    Supersport. 1.34.976

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